My apologies to Arie for responding publicly. My phone bundles people together in ways I don’t understand. I know we are on the same page as far as our concern for the birds and abiding by the ABA guidelines. And I agree that splitting off to another notification group is not a great solution. We probably differ most in our faith in our fellow man- I’ve been in situations now where I’ve had to shame people into not chasing a bird over and over, some will stop and some won’t. I hope Arie is right and we can help people understand where we’re coming from.
Mike Cooper Ridge >> On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Mike <mike...@optonline.net> wrote: >> >> I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see >> photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to >> them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been >> throwing the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. >> There’s currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around >> that if we some day exceeded that. >> The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public >> group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. >> >> Mike Cooper >> Ridge >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay <pjlind...@optonline.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two >>> Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, >>> several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get >>> photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and >>> slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were >>> obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and >>> preen in peace. >>> >>> I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a >>> transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to >>> the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first >>> time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE >>> PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this >>> would not be a pleasant study and left. >>> >>> I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common >>> sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo >>> more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other >>> birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or >>> rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another >>> birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the >>> closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, >>> already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the >>> birds. >>> >>> PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. >>> PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up >>> near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. >>> Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in >>> to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so >>> constantly. >>> And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. >>> >>> The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this >>> morning by Shai. >>> >>> Patricia Lindsay >>> Bay Shore >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>> >>> ARCHIVES: >>> 1) http://email@example.com/maillist.html >>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>> >>> -- >> >> >> -- >> >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://firstname.lastname@example.org/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://email@example.com/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --