Yes, I am enjoying this discussion. 

I’ve watched young gulls (both Herring and Great Black-backed)  doing pretty 
much the same thing with sticks, especially on a windy day. 

Rich Guthrie 

> On Jun 7, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Peter Post <pwp...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> I for one would like to see more of this sort of thing kn NYSBirds. There 
> are many such observations that go unrecorded. This is a perfect place for 
> it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Cappello, Adriana R (DEC) 
>>> <adriana.cappe...@dec.ny.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I thoroughly enjoyed this thread- thank you for sharing!! 🙂
>> 
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>> From: bounce-125688380-83014...@list.cornell.edu 
>> <bounce-125688380-83014...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Joseph Wallace 
>> <joew...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 6, 2021 12:07 PM
>> To: Shane Blodgett <shaneblodg...@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: Brendan Fogarty <bn...@cornell.edu>; Ardith Bondi 
>> <ard...@earthlink.net>; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Barn Swallow question
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>> Thanks, Shane. I guess that's long been debated (e.g., do cats play?), since 
>> almost all forms of play also have a "practice" aspect. I was telling my 
>> swallow story to a friend in the D.C. area, and he described a pair of foxes 
>> who had a den near his backyard. The kits would come out in the early 
>> morning and play with the balls my friend's family had left in the 
>> yard...but the play was pouncing, chasing etc. So I'd like to believe it can 
>> be both. 
>> 
>> Hope it's okay to continue this conversation here. (I find it fascinating!) 
>> I/we can take it private if it's taking up too much space.
>> --Joe
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 11:49 AM Shane Blodgett <shaneblodg...@yahoo.com> 
>> wrote:
>> For birds that catch prey on the wing I wonder if this behavior is just for 
>> “fun“ or could also be seen as “practice.” 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shane Blodgett
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Joseph Wallace <joew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for your replies (here and directly to me) and the 
>>> references. I love that feather-play is a "swallow thing." The one I 
>>> watched varied its game, swooping in from all angles and approaches. Twice 
>>> it flew almost straight upwards until it was perhaps fifty feet off the 
>>> ground before releasing the feather. 
>>> 
>>> I'm intrigued by the fact that one of the earlier reports also specifies a 
>>> large *white* feather; my guess is that, like yesterday's, it was a down 
>>> feather, which would float in the air much more satisfactorily than a 
>>> denser one.
>>> 
>>> I write essays on nature for a local Audubon Society. I think my next piece 
>>> will focus on bird play! Thanks again--
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 11:34 PM Brendan Fogarty <bn...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>> Joseph and all,
>>> 
>>> This behavior seems familiar, but I cannot say if I have seen it before in 
>>> person or in media. It is definitely documented; below is an excerpt from 
>>> Birds of the World online. 
>>> 
>>> "In Britain, 3 juveniles were observed apparently playing with large white 
>>> feather while in flight, repeatedly dropping it and catching it before it 
>>> reached the ground (1). Adults are also known to exhibit this same behavior 
>>> (2)."
>>> 
>>> 1. Thompson, B. G. (1990). Behaviour of Swallows with feather. British 
>>> Birds 83:239
>>> 
>>> 2. Turner, A. K. (2004). Family Hirundinidae (Swallows and Martins). In 
>>> Handbook of the Birds of the World, Volume 9: Cotingas to Pipits and 
>>> Wagtails (J. del Hoyo, A. Elliott, and D. A. Cristie, Editors), Lynx 
>>> Edicions, Barcelona, Spain.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Brendan Fogarty
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 11:23 PM Ardith Bondi <ard...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> That is very cool! This is not exactly the same, but I was photographing a 
>>> Tree Swallow at Oceanside Marine Nature Study Area on Long Island last 
>>> Tuesday with a 500 mm PF lens (think, short and light for a 500mm) on a 
>>> Nikon D850 with a very loud shutter. I suddenly realized that the swallow 
>>> was singing in response to the shutter. The more I pressed it, the more the 
>>> bird sang. I tried a varied pattern to test it. When I finally stopped, the 
>>> bird waited a second and then flew off. I had never experienced that 
>>> before, either. I have watched penguins play in  Antarctica. Penguins climb 
>>> up on things and jump off them just for fun. They’ll even do it with a 
>>> buddy. 
>>> 
>>> Ardith Bondi
>>> NYC
>>> www.ardithbondi.com
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 10:04 PM, Joseph Wallace <joew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> This is more about bird behavior than rarity, so apologies if it's o/t, 
>>>> but I watched a swallow engage in extraordinary (to me) behavior at Croton 
>>>> Point Park in Westchester today. It started when I spotted something white 
>>>> drifting slowly towards the ground: a large, downy feather. Just as I 
>>>> focused on it, a Barn Swallow snatched it out of the air with its beak. I 
>>>> expected the bird to head off to its nest, but instead it dropped the 
>>>> feather...and then circled and snatched it out of the air again. 
>>>> 
>>>> For the next few minutes, I watched the swallow repeatedly release the 
>>>> feather, do wide loops around it--sometimes feinting in its direction--and 
>>>> then pluck it out of the air. Twice it let the feather land on the grass, 
>>>> retrieving it once while on the wing and once by landing beside it. 
>>>> Finally the swallow did head off, I imagine to line its nest at last.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd never seen swallows engage in play, but I can't see how this was 
>>>> anything else. Has anyone else here ever witnessed something like this? 
>>>> Thanks--Joe Wallace
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