So seeing a bird thru the viewfinder of a mirror less camera does not count but 
thru a DSLR would count according to those rules. It maybe time to make some 
adjustments for new technologies.

By the way field biology studies use camera for various reasons including 
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> On Jul 29, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Robert Lewis <rfer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> This question was asked and answered many years ago.  You can't count a bird 
> for any life list that you see on television.  It's the same with today's 
> video cams.  It's a reconstructed image via pixels.
> 
> There is a continuous progression:  the lens in your eye -> eye glasses -> 
> lenses in binocular or telescope.
> 
> Bob Lewis
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> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 11:46:47 PM EDT, rcech <rc...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: 
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> 
> Depends on what you mean by real. 
> 
> In last Harry Potter epidode Harry is in a heaven-like place discussing his 
> last Voldermort encounter with Dumbledor.
> 
> "Professor," Harry asked, "Is this all real or is it just in my head?"
> 
> "Of course it's all in your head, dear boy, but that doesn't mean it's not 
> real."
> 
> I suppose ABA needs rules on this sort of thing. When is a mental image 
> recordable - always, or is this source-dependent? They have rules for 
> everything else, after all.
> 
> I'd recommend doing whatever you want, actually. It's your life list, after 
> all.
> 
> Just saying...
> 
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> -------- Original message --------
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> Date: 7/28/21 11:10 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu 
> Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Cold Spring Harbor Spoonbill Stuff 
> 
> Steve Walter’s spoonbill post got me thinking.
>  
> Occasionally, when I’m bored at work, I’ll turn on the live East Hampton 
> Beach Cam just to see what I can see. Surf, weather, birds, etc.
>  
> I’ve been able to identify things like Barn Swallow, Sanderling, even LBB 
> Gull. Would these count for Suffolk?
>  
> With binoculars, light is bent through the lens arrangement to focus on your 
> retinas.
>  
> With the webcam, light is focused onto a CMOS chip, converted to zeros and 
> ones, beamed to a satellite, beamed back to my computer, and then focused on 
> my retinas.
> Same thing, right? The time difference between the two is negligible.
>  
> I know, I know, it’s not the same. But it is “live” in the sense of time, and 
> very real. (Not like that great Tom Brady video this week of him playing 
> catch with a football passing machine).
>  
> What if I happen to see a Yellow-nosed Albatross cruise across my monitor one 
> day? Can I count it and, better yet, should I even report it…..
>  
> The problems of the modern age.
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