But, isn’t the permit for fishermen only, or is there a permit for birders?

Ardith
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> On Feb 3, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m 
> willing to buy a permit, there is no plan nor projected date for when they 
> will start selling the 2022 permit, even though the permit season starts 
> February 1. The only people who can park legally in the meantime are existing 
> 2021 permit holders. It seems unjust that one can only park with a valid 
> permit, which is not available for purchase at this time. 
> Dawn
> 
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>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I know that there is a discussion with State parks to create a birders 
>> permit, perhaps that can also be proposed if they don't want to have general 
>> public using limited parking
>> 
>> Jennifer
>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:12 PM Stanley Greenberg <greenbergph...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible 
>>> to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there 
>>> sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some 
>>> birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway 
>>> management and the local Congressperson, Gergory Meeks. It's absurd that 
>>> people who take (fish) are given a higher priority than people who watch 
>>> (birds).
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:34 PM Trachlar <trach...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my 
>>>> guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily).  
>>>> 
>>>> L. Trachtenberg 
>>>> Ossining NY 
>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and 
>>>>> you need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this 
>>>>> unjust regulation.  Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this 
>>>>> season. It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of 
>>>>> Fort Tilden. If there is any action to be taken, we will know about it 
>>>>> from the organizations representing us. I know. It is not right. It is 
>>>>> also about money. The fishermen they say are complaining they have no 
>>>>> parking space. From my experience that is not true. There are always lots 
>>>>> of empty spots. I was planning to go, but we cannot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe one member of the group can drop the others off and then if another 
>>>>> driver in the car. The original driver comes back, and the second driver 
>>>>> gives the first driver a little time on the beach. The rest can go back 
>>>>> to the main area, and then later pick up the original driver., 
>>>>> complicated, but possible, Bird different areas and take turns.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Deborah Shapiro <dsni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill <rjoneill...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the 
>>>>>>> permit you can be towed. 
>>>>>>> Bob O’Neill 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy 
>>>>>>>> > Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in 
>>>>>>>> > winter, but I seem to remember some change in that policy. 
>>>>>>>> > Thank you,
>>>>>>>> > Dawn Hannay
>>>>>>>> > 
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