But, isn’t the permit for fishermen only, or is there a permit for birders?
Ardith NYC www.ardithbondi.com Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m > willing to buy a permit, there is no plan nor projected date for when they > will start selling the 2022 permit, even though the permit season starts > February 1. The only people who can park legally in the meantime are existing > 2021 permit holders. It seems unjust that one can only park with a valid > permit, which is not available for purchase at this time. > Dawn > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> I know that there is a discussion with State parks to create a birders >> permit, perhaps that can also be proposed if they don't want to have general >> public using limited parking >> >> Jennifer >> >>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:12 PM Stanley Greenberg <greenbergph...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible >>> to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there >>> sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some >>> birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway >>> management and the local Congressperson, Gergory Meeks. It's absurd that >>> people who take (fish) are given a higher priority than people who watch >>> (birds). >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:34 PM Trachlar <trach...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my >>>> guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily). >>>> >>>> L. Trachtenberg >>>> Ossining NY >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and >>>>> you need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this >>>>> unjust regulation. Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this >>>>> season. It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of >>>>> Fort Tilden. If there is any action to be taken, we will know about it >>>>> from the organizations representing us. I know. It is not right. It is >>>>> also about money. The fishermen they say are complaining they have no >>>>> parking space. From my experience that is not true. There are always lots >>>>> of empty spots. I was planning to go, but we cannot. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe one member of the group can drop the others off and then if another >>>>> driver in the car. The original driver comes back, and the second driver >>>>> gives the first driver a little time on the beach. The rest can go back >>>>> to the main area, and then later pick up the original driver., >>>>> complicated, but possible, Bird different areas and take turns. >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Deborah Shapiro <dsni...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags? >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill <rjoneill...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the >>>>>>> permit you can be towed. >>>>>>> Bob O’Neill >>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy >>>>>>>> > Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in >>>>>>>> > winter, but I seem to remember some change in that policy. >>>>>>>> > Thank you, >>>>>>>> > Dawn Hannay >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>>>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>>>>>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>>>>>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ARCHIVES: >>>>>>>> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>>>>>>> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>>>>>>> > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Please submit your observations to eBird: >>>>>>>> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>>>>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>>>>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ARCHIVES: >>>>>>>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>>>>>>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>>>>>>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>>>>>>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>>>> Welcome and Basics >>>>>>> Rules and Information >>>>>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>>>>> Archives: >>>>>>> The Mail Archive >>>>>>> Surfbirds >>>>>>> ABA >>>>>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>> Welcome and Basics >>>>> Rules and Information >>>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>>> Archives: >>>>> The Mail Archive >>>>> Surfbirds >>>>> ABA >>>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>> Welcome and Basics >>>> Rules and Information >>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>> Archives: >>>> The Mail Archive >>>> Surfbirds >>>> ABA >>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>> Welcome and Basics >>> Rules and Information >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>> Archives: >>> The Mail Archive >>> Surfbirds >>> ABA >>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>> -- >> >> >> -- >> Jennifer Wilson-Pines > > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > ABA > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --