not to forget twitter threads,

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:32 PM Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know
> it exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook,
> discord, whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might
> make it more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook,
> since it's easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't
> require special knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds
> but it does ge them in touch with local birders.
>  And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the
> bird reposted within minutes.
>
> Jennifer Wilson Pines
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to have touched a nerve.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to
>> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list.
>> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs
>> from all over the country.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders
>> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the
>> first NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out
>> about and join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have
>> disappeared in the meantime.
>>
>>
>>
>> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher
>> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often
>> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist.
>> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the
>> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has
>> flown elsewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> My opinion,
>>
>>
>>
>> Deb Allen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM
>> To: Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net>
>> Cc: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>, NYSBIRDS-L <
>> NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>
>>
>> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw
>> it reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists
>> and groups beyond this one.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the
>>> bird in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not
>>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of
>>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I
>>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the
>>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders
>>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm
>>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on
>>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Deb Allen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM
>>> To: NYS Birds <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
>>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill?
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who
>>> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am.  A shame it was never
>>> posted here.  Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later.
>>> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB
>>> group until hours later.  The report never came up on my FB until about 40
>>> minutes ago.   A shame what birding has become.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> *Andrew v. F. Block*
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