not to forget twitter threads, On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:32 PM Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This list is not accessible unless you are a member, and unless you know > it exists, not easy to find. Perhaps a push to the dozens of facebook, > discord, whatsapp and groupme lists with instructions on how to join might > make it more useful. I have seen that most visiting birders use Facebook, > since it's easily searchable for local birding groups and doesn't > require special knowledge to find or join. It doesn't give them rare birds > but it does ge them in touch with local birders. > And I also note that "largely useless" Long Island Whatsapp group had the > bird reposted within minutes. > > Jennifer Wilson Pines > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > >> Hi Jennifer, >> >> >> >> I seem to have touched a nerve. >> >> >> >> On the contrary, rather than being elitist, NYSBIRDS-L is accessible to >> anyone. No one needs to join a group to read posts on the NY State list. >> It's only necessary to go to the ABA Web site to find birding listservs >> from all over the country. >> >> >> >> I'm glad that there is a Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme and a Birdfinders >> Whatsap. There's also a NY County bird alert on Twitter @BirdCentralPark. >> >> >> >> I do wonder what upstate birders who might want to travel to see the >> first NY State record of a species must think. Must they also find out >> about and join local groups to learn about such a bird? Will the bird have >> disappeared in the meantime. >> >> >> >> We should make information on bird such as the Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher >> as accessible as possible. Ebird is a great source too, but there's often >> quite a lag between someone's seeing a bird and entering a checklist. >> There's an easily accessible archive of messages for both Ebird and the >> NYSBIRDS-L, which will serve us all well once the bird in question has >> flown elsewhere. >> >> >> >> My opinion, >> >> >> >> Deb Allen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 8:43 PM >> To: Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> >> Cc: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>, NYSBIRDS-L < >> NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu> >> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill? >> >> >> The Sulphur was posted to the Manhattan Rare Bird Groupme by 11am. I saw >> it reposted to the BIrdfinders Whatsap at 11:15. There are many bird lists >> and groups beyond this one. >> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:29 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Andrew, >>> >>> >>> >>> You are absolutely right. I really don't know why people who saw the >>> bird in the afternoon did not post to NYSBIRDS-L.Probably they are not >>> subscribed to the list - that's my guess. >>> >>> >>> >>> The flycatcher was not in Wave Hill in the afternoon but a bit north of >>> there, ranging from Sycamore and 252nd to 254th for the rest of the day. I >>> didn't post because I didn't see it and only heard it late in the >>> afternoon. Several other people heard it after 5pm also. Several birders >>> saw it between 12:30 and 3pm, and Bob DeCandido saw it at around 3:20pm >>> close to 254th Street. I should think there would be some checklists on >>> ebird later, but there's nothing like timely reporting. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope it sticks around and shows itself tomorrow, >>> >>> >>> >>> Deb Allen >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com> >>> Sent: Oct 9, 2022 5:59 PM >>> To: NYS Birds <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu> >>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher at Wave Hill? >>> >>> >>> Just got back from Wave Hill in the bronx and the woman at the gate who >>> was closing up said it wasn't seen since this am. A shame it was never >>> posted here. Only saw it posted to the FB group and that was hours later. >>> Shame shame on these people who don't post here and don't post on the FB >>> group until hours later. The report never came up on my FB until about 40 >>> minutes ago. A shame what birding has become. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> *Andrew v. F. 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