Unfortunately, it's not free in any sense of the word (certainly not the freedom sense) - I had to buy a copy of MS Windows XP Pro, at $300 or so + GST, to run it. Otherwise, I'd be a law breaker, and that's not the way I do things (even if I happen to disagree with a law)... so for me, it was a costly browser.
MS Windows is not free. You either pay for it (included, most likely, in the cost of your computer, but a cost none-the-less), or you steal it (in which case the cost is liability/conscience pangs). Our main hardware supplier (from whom we buy OS-less systems, and install Linux) will deduct $220 + GST from each machine we buy versus the published reseller price for removing MS Windows Vista (with the right to "backgrade" to XP, of course). Frankly, being forced to buy crappy software from a company whose ethics stinks just to be able to do my job well really pisses me off. Cheers, Dave Sid Bachtiar wrote: > But unfortunately, IE is free. You can't charge Ms for providing you > with free broken browser. > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:07 PM, matt_thomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Has anyone else been specifically tracking his/her IE6/7-specific CSS >> workaround time? It seems very unfair to require our customers to pay >> for Microsoft's inexcusably broken browsers. I suspect we could get >> quite a bit of publicity for such a symbolic event. To those >> list-lurkers on Microsoft's payroll - what do you think? Worth a >> lash?" >> >> How about an international "Bill Microsoft Day" where any >> participating IT companies send off an invoice to their national >> microsoft office (and update their invoice online like a "pledge" >> website). Of course Microsoft would not pay, but an event like that >> every year in the press would be terrible publicity, and a nice >> cathartic protest for all the crap we put up with. >> >> Probably wishful thinking... but a nice idea. >> >> On Oct 9, 9:55 pm, Dave Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> For quite some time, my colleagues and I have been (semi) joking about >>> invoicing Microsoft, and the oblivious organisations who persist in >>> requiring the use of Microsoft browsers, for time spent having to break >>> beautiful W3C Standards compliant sites to make them work in IE6/7... >>> hopefully this won't be required for IE8, but I'm not holding my >>> breath... (One big black mark against IE8 already is the fact that it >>> won't support SVG (Scalar Vector Graphics) standard, even though most >>> browsers, e.g. Firefox, Safari, Konqueror, and (I think) Opera support >>> most of the spec already - a tragic missed opportunity for a common, >>> open graphics functionality on the web... but of course it conflicts >>> with "Silverlight", another MS-only technology and a classic example of >>> trying leverage the monopoly for fun and profit, and to make up for >>> costly debacles like Vista and Zune...) >>> >>> Has anyone else been specifically tracking his/her IE6/7-specific CSS >>> workaround time? It seems very unfair to require our customers to pay >>> for Microsoft's inexcusably broken browsers. I suspect we could get >>> quite a bit of publicity for such a symbolic event. To those >>> list-lurkers on Microsoft's payroll - what do you think? Worth a lash? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> matt_thomson wrote: >>>> I used to use multiple IE's for 6/7, until I launched a site that I >>>> had only tested in the multiple IE-IE6. It turned out the site was >>>> fine in multiple IE, and broken in the real IE6, and I only found out >>>> after customer complaints. >>>> So then I used two hard drive partitions, with two XP's, which was a >>>> hassle as I had to reboot a lot. >>>> Now I have a laptop with IE6, and my PC with IE7, works great. >>>> With IE8 soon to release, it seems my only choice is to have 2 laptops >>>> and a pc (desk is getting pretty crowded), or two have two partitions >>>> on my laptop, and reboot a lot. >>>> Has anyone found a better way? >>> -- >>> Dave Lane = Egressive Ltd = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = m: +64 21 229 8147 >>> p: +64 3 9633733 = Linux: it just tastes better = >>> nosoftwarepatentshttp://egressive.com==== we only use open >>> standards:http://w3.org >>> Effusion Group Founding Member ===========http://effusiongroup.com >>> > > > -- Dave Lane = Egressive Ltd = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = m: +64 21 229 8147 p: +64 3 9633733 = Linux: it just tastes better = nosoftwarepatents http://egressive.com ==== we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member =========== http://effusiongroup.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
