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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan Khan Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2009 1:51 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [phpug] Re: [OT] Moving websites between domains - SERPs fallout Thanks Michael, When we reuse the domain, we'll have similar pages at the same URLs; but these would apply to the international site not the NZ site. So if I understand correctly, the 301 will effectively replace Google's .com link with the .co.nz link over time? Any idea of how long this might take? - If you have an xml sitemap on the .com with all the old url's in it, and have a robots.txt that includes that sitemap:http://www.domain.com, then Google will spider the old url's and see the redirects that much faster. If you create a webpage with links to all the old url's on it (that then redirect to the new url's), you will get it spidered that much faster as well. The speed of the transfer is dependent on the PR of your website/highest pr of pages of your website, and therefore the frequency of Google spidering your website. It is one thing Google seeing the redirect, it is another thing for Google removing the url's from its index. Could be a number of weeks. And in saying don't blanket .htaccess everything, this is so that the domain still exists in Google from an aging perspective and ensure it's still indexed? - yes When I put new pages at the same URLs up on .com in the future, I would effectively be starting from scratch for those pages since the PR was transferred to the NZ site by replacing the URL in the SERPs? - You would be removing the redirect at that point. So any external links into the subpages would therefore not be redirected. You would have had to contact all the old linkspartners (you can see some inbound links into subpages via Google webmaster tools) to get them to link to the new website. If this makes sense, then I think I understand! Cheers, -Dan From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Brandon-SearchMasters Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2009 1:18 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [phpug] Re: [OT] Moving websites between domains - SERPs fallout Hi Dan Are you wanting to use the .com as an international website in the future? Then I suggest that you put up a temporary website with a few new pages on the .com website, and conceptually start from scratch with your .co.nz website. If you do the redirect as you have stated (htaccess redirect of everything to new website), then you will lose the power attached to your current domain. The new domain will still in general not rank well on the search engines until its gets old enough - immediate ranking for non competitive search phrases, a number of months for competitive search phrases, despite any redirects from .com You could do a hybrid of the above - New pages on .com - If there is a pattern for the old url's, or url by url - do an htaccess redirect from all old .com url's (apart from home page), to the equivalent url's in the .co.nz website The link text and PR attached to the incoming links will be passed through the 301 redirect from .com to .co.nz, but the .co.nz website will still need to age before it gets best rankings. Most of your incoming links would have been to the .com homepage, so you probably would not get too much value from those redirects apart from giving the best user experience of people Googling, finding the .com url's in the serps, and then being redirected to the .co.nz - until Google deletes the old url's from its cache and updates with the .co.nz url's Does that give the answers you are after? Kind Regards Michael Michael Brandon Search Engine Mastery Getting you to the top of the Search Engines http://www.SearchMasters.co.nz Ph: 09 8132307, Mob: 021 728889, Skype: SearchMasters From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan Khan Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2009 12:54 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [phpug] [OT] Moving websites between domains - SERPs fallout Hi, I've got a site currently running on a .com domain and I'd like to move it to a .co.nz domain and redirect .com traffic -> .co.nz in preparation for using the .com as an international site. Obviously the .com has been stable on the search engines for the last year, and I want to try to minimise any associated fallout of the SERPs with the domain move. Has anyone done this before and have any advice, or can anyone point me to some best-practice articles? Thanks in advance, -Dan style='color:windowtext'> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
