Same here.  I should also point out that the Symfony team seem to be the only 
ones who have stopped competing. And even then they weren't actively doing it 
in the first place.  In Symfony 2 they've replace Symfony's caching & logging 
with Zend libraries and replaced Lime with PHPunit.

On a related note, I recently talked about Symfony & Symfony 2 at the Auckland 
web meetup.  Slides are below if anyone is interested.
http://www.slideshare.net/kerihenare/symfony-2-auckland-web-meetup-20x20

Kind regards,
Keri Henare
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On 4/03/2010, at 9:51 AM, Sid Bachtiar wrote:

> competition is good
> 
> I don't mind using ZF, as a plugin to Symfony :P
> 
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, S.Mohammed Alsharaf
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry it's off topic, but its good to see that some of PHP developers trying
>> to work together rather than competing :)
>> 
>> "many see Symfony and ZF as being in competition, and that there would be no
>> cross-pollination. I'm hoping that between Fabien, Stefan, and myself, we
>> helped dispel that myth this week."
>> http://weierophinney.net/matthew/archives/232-Symfony-Live-2010.html
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [phpug] Speaking of factory factory factory
>> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:38:31 +0000
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> in Zend Framework:
>> You have two options or more if you want to use action helpers
>> $this->_forward($action, $controller = null, $module = null, array $params =
>> null);
>> 
>> or
>> Proxies to  Zend_Controller_Action_Helper_Redirector::gotoUrl()
>> $this->_redirect($url, array $options = array());
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Mohammed
>> http://jamandcheese-on-phptoast.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [phpug] Speaking of factory factory factory
>>> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:32:43 +1300
>>> 
>>> Symfony version:
>>> 
>>> $this->redirect('url');
>>> 
>>> done...
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/03/2010, at 9:30 AM, Richard Clark wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You can get all of those without ending up with the mess the original
>>>> poster gave. Plenty of modern frameworks manage to make that stuff
>>>> simple, easy and elegant.
>>>> 
>>>> On 3 March 2010 23:46, Jevon Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Except this way you get logging, debugging, and a host of other
>>>>> features :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just remember what things were like before PDO... or even PEAR.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jevon
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Richard Clark <[email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> People got more interested in classes and adapters and brokers and
>>>>>> swimming in a sea of abstract patterns than they did in producing
>>>>>> results. And we all lost out as a result.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3 March 2010 23:27, Keith Allpress <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I wanted to redirect to the current uri in a zend front controller
>>>>>>> plugin so
>>>>>>> I started typing
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> $redirector =
>>>>>>> Zend_Controller_Action_HelperBroker::getStaticHelper('redirector');
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> $redirector->gotoUrl($request->getRequestUri())->redirectAndExit();
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Then it struck me whatever happened to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> redirect($_SERVER["REQUEST_URI"]);
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chuckles
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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