Personally I'd prefer to see something like that specified and 
prioritized as a new feature. But the specific bug you're talking about 
-- not being able to log into the "admin" account that currently 
actually exists out of the box -- seems like a narrower problem, and a 
204 status does seem to describe the real situation. Anyway, I'll step 
back now & let others express opinions.

Best,
Ray

On 6/27/12 9:00 AM, Erik Froese wrote:
> What about something like "Administrator"? or "ViceProvost"?
>
> 204 would suggest that an account exists by that username, which is not true.
> 404 would tell the UX to go ahead and submit that username for creation.
>
> If other services start using this endpoint for other reasons we could
> be sending mixed messages.
> 409 seems clearer. "An error occurred because the name you submitted
> conflicts with the internal state of the system"
>
> Erik
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Bert Pareyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hey Eric,
>>
>> The UI needs to get an OK back from the server to know that the username has
>> been taken.
>> If it returns an error code the username has not been taken and is up for
>> grabs.
>> If you can extend user.exists to check for a list of usernames that aren't
>> allowed, like admin, that wouldn't require any change in the UI.
>>
>> Something like
>>
>> - UI does request for username 'Admin'
>> - Server checks if username is blacklisted, if it is return an 'OK'
>> - If it isn't, checks if username is already taken, if it is return an 'OK'
>>
>> - Bert
>>
>> On 27 Jun 2012, at 16:40, Erik Froese wrote:
>>
>> Would the 409 error code is enough to trigger the default error
>> behavior in the UX?
>> The same red X icon would probably suffice to let users know we don't
>> like their choice.
>>
>> e
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Erik Froese <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>>
>> We've recently found that creating a user with the name Admin causes
>>
>> some bad stuff to happen, namely, you can't log in through the UX as
>>
>> admin anymore.
>>
>> I think it might be time to add some logic in order to prevent bad
>>
>> usernames from being created in the system.
>>
>>
>> Could we add this to the user.exists.html endpoint?
>>
>>
>> /system/userManager/user.exists.html?userid=$username
>>
>>
>> HTTP responses:
>>
>> 204 (OK No Content): A User with that username (or case-variant)
>>
>> exists on the system.
>>
>> 404 (Not found): User name is valid and can be used to create a new
>>
>> user authorizable.
>>
>> ** 409 (Conflict): The user name is used or conflicts with internal
>>
>> configuration (aka evil names regex or list)
>>
>>
>> My hand it up to JIRA and implement this. It shouldn't take very long
>>
>> to add a regex property to the LiteUserExistsServlet.java
>>
>>
>> Erik
>>
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