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15:03 <SakaiGithub> [nakamura-ruby/master] Merge pull request #21 from 
croby/KERN-2979 - D. Stuart Freeman
16:13 <raydavis> But zacht, what was this totally awesome conference called?
16:16 <zacht> raydavis No Fluff Just Stuff.
16:16 <raydavis> Thanks!
16:17 <zacht> raydavis I've actually been twice this year. I got a volume 
discount. :-)
16:21 <raydavis> Woot! All integration tests pass! I can't remember the last 
time I saw that. :)
16:21 <raydavis> Thanks for getting the lid on those, zacht
16:21 <zacht> raydavis My pleasure.
16:22 <zacht> raydavis Now to roll it into continuous integration.
16:22 <ctweney> zacht:  what was that link for sonar again?
16:23 <stuartf> I'm actually seeing one integration test fail here
16:23 <zacht> http://sakai-oae.sonar.cloudbees.com
16:23 <stuartf> test_paging_of_messages(TC_Kern2113Test) 
[/home/stuart/src/nakamura/testscripts/SlingRuby/kerns/kern-2113.rb
16:23 <raydavis> stuartf does it pass when run separately?
16:23 <stuartf> raydavis: I haven't tried that
16:24 <raydavis> stuartf that tells me if it's some sort of timing/threading 
problem.
16:25 <ctweney> zacht:  sonar wants me to log in…
16:25 <stuartf> running it standalone now
16:25 <raydavis> Usually a problem with the test rather than with OAE, although 
there have been exceptions.
16:25 <zacht> ctweney Yeah, as I mentioned on the standup call, you won't be 
able to see it.
16:26 <MrVisser> integration tests have bailed me out quite a bit before I 
commit code.
16:26 <MrVisser> glad to see them restore confidence :)
16:27 <raydavis> mrvisser, me too, but it's been a drag having to keep a copy 
of all the tests-that-failed-before-my-change for comparison.
16:27 <MrVisser> raydavis: for sure.
16:28 <stuartf> raydavis: yeah, it passes when run by itself
16:29 <raydavis> stuartf, great (kind of), that means there's a bug in the test 
code. Should get fixed to avoid false positives in continuous integration.
16:30 <raydavis> (I think I've found maybe a half-dozen times when it was a 
genuine contention bug in Nakamura/Sparse, but usually it's bad assumptions in 
the Ruby script.)
16:31 <PhysX> Hi bug bashers! today we'll be testing against the 1.4.0 release 
candidate. Everything is fair game so try and test a variety of areas in the 
system. The server is live at https://qa20-us.sakaiproject.org:8088
16:46 <Bob_> Added self from old account as member of group - is there any way 
to distinguish people with the same name - any unique identifier of who someone 
is that is visible to users?
16:49 <stuartf> the javascript cut/copy/paste in a sakaidoc doesn't work on 
firefox
16:50 <stuartf> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Midas/Security_preferences
16:50 <zacht> Bob_ Their home url will have their unique id in it. Is that what 
you had in mind?
16:56 <Bob_> zacht - here's the problem - I want to share an item to John 
Smith, but there are three John Smiths in the system - how do I know which one 
I'm sharing it with?
16:56 <nicolaas> Bob: this problem is being worked into the current designs
16:57 <nicolaas> will be shown to the URG next week
16:57 <Bob_> Cool - thanks!
16:58 <PhysX> dean440: did you see some strange behavior in your inbox?
16:59 <dean440> PhysX No, I didn't see anything. What are you seeing?
16:59 <dean440> Ah, I see your message
16:59 <stuartf> autosave dialog shows 'yes' as a button and 'no' as a link
17:01 <PhysX> half an hour left bug bashers!
17:08 <Bob_> Oops - screen freeze - happen to anyone else?  (Will file as bug 
with screen shot if not - happened while dragging an item in a collection to 
another collection)
17:09 <nicolaas> not seeing anything over here
17:10 <stuartf> same here, I did just create a rather large sakai-doc
17:10 <Bob_> Still frozen
17:17 <ctweney> nicolaas, PhysX :  I noticed a minor issue with the collector. 
If I have the collector open while I add a doc to a collection, the count 
inside the collector doesn't update. Known issue?
17:17 <Bob_> Refreshing unfroze screen - all working normally now
17:18 <PhysX> Bob_ are you able to reproduce the frozen screen?
17:19 <PhysX> ctweney: don't think it's a know issue but we probably don't 
catch the event that's sent out
17:19 <Bob_> Phys X Haven't been able to so far - will keep trying
17:20 <PhysX> everyone, there's about 10 minutes remaining in today's bug bash. 
If there's anything you'd still like to try out give it a go
17:21 <dean440> Anyone having 2 collection counts update when you drag an item 
into a collection?
17:21 <PhysX> dean440: library and collection?
17:21 <dean440> No, 2 different collections.
17:22 <dean440> PhysX ^
17:22 <PhysX> dean440: yeah I can reproduce it too
17:22 <PhysX> can you make a ticket?
17:22 <dean440> PhysX Yep
17:22 <stuartf> oops: http://i.imgur.com/p5Nfw.png
17:23 <nicolaas> stuartf: I haven't seen that yet
17:23 <Bob_> Minor counter issue - if I drag an item from a collection into My 
Library (in the Collector window) that's already in the Library,  I get the 
counter going up each time (like if I drag it in three times, the counter goes 
from 15 to 18) - but then when I go to the Library, there is (properly) only 
one copy and the counter is at 15, where it shoud be
17:24 <Bob_> dean 440 - similar to your issue?
17:24 <stuartf> I was pasting 3M of text (War and Peace) and chrome didn't like 
it
17:25 <dean440> Man, Collection Counts are buggy. >_<
17:26 <Bob_> Now it's counting by twos - I drag an item from a Collection into 
the Library collection, and the counter goes up by two. - but, again, when I 
open the Library itself, the counter is correct
17:28 <zacht> ctweney What's the path to the activity feed?
17:30 <zacht> ctweney Nevermind. I've got it.
17:30 <PhysX> it's time to wrap up the bash everyone, thank you for 
participating. Please file any issues that you encountered.
17:37 <zacht> ctweney assigned KERN-3050
17:38 <Bob_> S' Long
17:39 <stuartf> ha, I got it to work: 
https://qa20-us.sakaiproject.org:8088/content#p=mmQeqyQOKs/War%20and%20Peace
17:53 <ctweney> zacht, kentfitz, the reason for kern-3050 seems to be that the 
activitysource field doesn't exist in the solr index
17:53 <kentfitz> ctweney: As in it's not getting indexed ever?
17:54 <ctweney> as in it's not part of the schema, I don't think
17:54 <zacht> ctweney But it's in the indexing handler?
17:54 <ctweney> it should be, let me double check
17:54 <ixmati> I'm not sure I'll be able to finish War & Peace today
17:55 <zacht> ixmati Hey, that's just what the preview processor said!
17:55 <ctweney> yes zacht it's in the indexer. So I'd expect to see a few 
errors in the log pertaining to that
17:56 <zacht> ctweney I'll try a grep now.
17:56 <ctweney> kentfitz, zacht, did qa20 recently change to have solr on a 
separate server?
17:56 <kentfitz> ctweney: It did not, never had time to get that configured
17:57 <ixmati> zacht: LOL
17:57 <ctweney> ok, there goes one hunch..
17:59 <zacht> kentfitz Which directory is oae running from on qa20?
18:00 <kentfitz> weird, last message did not send. It was launched from 
/home/sakai/13
18:00 <kentfitz> the code is in /home/sakai/14
18:02 <zacht> kentfitz if you begin a message with a forward slash, IRC 
interprets it as an IRC command.
18:03 <kentfitz> zacht: that would have done it
18:03 <stuartf>  /you can start the line with a space though
18:04 <zacht> ctweney no mention of ActivityIndexer in the log. Is there 
something else that I should look for?
18:05 <ctweney> zacht:  try another grep for ActivityIndexing
18:12 <zacht> ctweney I think I've got something.
18:12 <zacht> ctweney I created a new DEBUG logger for activity search.
18:13 <zacht> ctweney When I added a piece of content, it was 
ResourceUpdateIndexingHandler which popped up in the log.
18:14 <zacht> ctweney But ActivityIndexingHandler is the only one that makes 
any mention of activitysource
18:14 <ctweney> ResourceUpdate is just for the most-active-content feed
18:14 <ctweney> which is unrelated
18:15 <ctweney> you don't see ActivityIndexingHandler fire at all?
18:15 <zacht> ctweney no.
18:16 <ctweney> very strange.. but obviously it must have worked for some 
documents, because they're there in the search results!
18:16 <ctweney> err wait
18:16 <ctweney> no, the search when you're logged in has results
18:16 <ctweney> although it seems like it shouldn't
18:17 <zacht> ctweney If you want to try some ad hoc solr queries, you can 
here: http://qa20-us.sakaiproject.org:8080/system/console/
18:19 <zacht> ctweney I'm now seeing some ActivityIndexingHandler action in the 
log.
18:20 <ctweney> curious, zacht, did somethign change or is it just catching up 
with a bunch of activity?
18:21 <zacht> ctweney No, they're all for the same authorizable: 
a:selenium/private/activityFeed
18:23 <zacht> ctweney Ok, I did see a log message for a piece of content I 
added. http://pastebin.com/7u9bkK9S
18:25 <zacht> ctweney Could the problem be that it's using 
sakai:activity-source for the property name?
18:25 <ctweney> no - that's the sparse property name. In Solr that gets 
translated to "activitysource"
18:25 <ctweney> zacht:  can you grep with a few lines of context around that 
last log entry you pasted? I'd expect to see some errors from Solr around there.
18:26 <ctweney> since in the Solr query console if you search 
"activitysource:*" it says that field does not exist.
18:29 <zacht> ctweney I think I need logging on a different package.
18:29 <zacht> ctweney Though that error tells us there is something wrong with 
our schema definition.
18:30 <ctweney> actually zacht the content of that Solr doc is wrong. That 
looks like an obsolete version of ActivityIndexingHandler.
18:31 <ctweney> zacht:  here's what a proper log entry should look like : 
http://pastebin.com/LL27LUtx
18:32 <ctweney> note the activitysource field
18:33 <stuartf> zacht: so, should I just make a branch and change all the 
1.4.0-SNAPSHOT to 1.5.0-SNAPSHOT? or do it in an existing branch?
18:33 <zacht> stuartf make a branch.
18:34 <zacht> stuartf the caveat I was going to tell you about is that you'll 
find the our solr bundle version number at 1.4.3-SNAPSHOT (or something close 
to that). It should also become 1.5.0-SNAPSHOT.
18:34 <stuartf> ok, and was there some other thing you hinted at on the call?
18:34 <stuartf> ah
18:34 <stuartf> got it
18:37 <zacht> ctweney I'm going to test a hunch.
18:50 <stuartf> zacht: it looks like solr is already at 1.5.0-SNAPSHOT in master
18:51 <zacht> stuartf ok. No problem then.
18:55 <zacht> ctweney I think the build didn't have your changes in it for 
KERN-3036
19:41 <zacht> kentfitz I have somehow broken qa20
19:41 <kentfitz> zacht: way to go! ;)
19:41 <zacht> I know.
19:42 <MrVisser> my god puppet is awesome
19:42 <zacht> kentfitz I wanted to start up with a rebuilt 1.4.0 jar, but I got 
the "Cannot authenticate request." problem.
19:43 <MrVisser> it… it… it…. just works.
19:43 <MrVisser> no surprises.
19:43 <kentfitz> zacht: Where did you launch from?
19:43 <zacht> kentfitz /home/sakai/13
19:44 <kentfitz> zacht: Hmmmm, yeah, something isn't right, it's using derby 
rather than postgres. Let me look a little further
19:44 <zacht> kentfitz So I tried starting with a new sling directory.
19:45 <zacht> kentfitz So at a minimum, it needs the correct config copied back 
into it.
19:45 <kentfitz> zacht: Ahhhhhh, well, that explains derby, but it's going to 
need a clean DB as well if you did that
19:45 <zacht> kentfitz How do we use the existing data set?
19:46 <kentfitz> zacht: I'd have to restore the 1.3 dataset then re run the 
entire migration
19:46 <kentfitz> zacht: I was waiting to snapshot 1.4 until we released
19:46 <zacht> kentfitz I don't mind running the migration.
19:47 <kentfitz> zacht: run 
/home/sakai/13/scripts/wipeandrestorefromsavedstate.sh
19:47 <zacht> kentfitz++
19:47 <kentfitz> zacht: That will drop the db, restore from backup, and restore 
the sling and store directories from backup
19:49 <zacht> kentfitz And then I follow the steps on 
https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/Upgrading+OAE ?
19:50 <kentfitz> zacht: Yep. So launch the 1.3 code from home/sakai/13 for the 
first step. Then launch the code from home/sakai/14 for the remainder
19:51 <zacht> kentfitz got it. Thanks.
19:51 <kentfitz> home/sakai/13/startsakai.sh is set up to launch the 1.4 code 
in that 14 directory, but the 1.3 start up is commented out if you want to use 
it
19:51 <zacht> kentfitz ok, I'll use that.
19:53 <zacht> mrvisser are you using a puppet master?
19:53 <zacht> mrvisser I got a good demo of that over the weekend.
19:54 <MrVisser> zacht: no puppet master involved. for now I am the puppet 
master.
19:54 <MrVisser> zacht: I have munin server + nodes installed on the cluster 
nodes, which will monitor system resources
19:55 <MrVisser> and it just worked. no tears
19:59 <zacht> kentfitz reindex underway. I'm going to step out for a bite to 
eat while it's running.
19:59 <kentfitz> zacht: Makes sense, probably 30-40 minutes there
19:59 <kentfitz> zacht: I have to leave in about 30, but I'll try to check mail 
periodically this evening
20:04 <ctweney> huh, zacht and kentfitz, qa20's got some oddities in /var. 
specifically, /var/scm-version.json is 404.
20:05 <kentfitz> ctweney: it's in the middle of the upgrade steps now, so I 
wonder if that's related
20:06 <ctweney> could be.. though /var should be loaded as soon as all the 
bundles start up.
20:44 <zacht> ctweney All the upgrade steps are complete.
20:44 <zacht> ctweney And recent activity works. :-)
20:45 <ctweney> I still smell a rat on qa20, zacht
20:45 <ctweney> try clicking the Sakai logo at lower left to get the revision 
number
20:45 <ctweney> the file that feeds that is 404
20:45 <zacht> ctweney comes from the doc bundle, right?
20:45 <ctweney>  /var/scm-version.json
20:45 <ctweney> it's from the resources bundle actually
20:47 <zacht> ctweney 
http://qa20-us.sakaiproject.org:8080/system/console/contentreloader
20:47 <zacht> ctweney It's that weird symptom we saw last week where not all 
the initial content went in.
20:47 <ctweney> weird
20:48 <zacht> ctweney except this time, I didn't add /var using curl.
20:48 <ctweney> on my local build (fresh, not an upgrade) the resources bundle 
doesn't appear in content loader, although the /var/scm-version file is there 
as expected
20:49 <ctweney> zacht:  did you delete /var during the upgrade?
20:49 <zacht> ctweney yeah.
20:50 <ctweney> and you deleted sling/startup and sling/felix per usual?
20:50 <zacht> ctweney Yes. Should I try re-installing bundles a la carte?
20:51 <ctweney> unfortunately I think resources is one of those you can't 
reinstall w/o a restart
20:51 <ctweney> but it might be worth a try
20:51 <ctweney> I'm getting nervous about the content loading strangeness though
20:52 <ctweney> since it doesn't follow a pattern I can discern
20:52 <zacht> Yeah, it's not cool.
20:55 <zacht> ctweney Here's a clue. I tried stopping and restarting the doc 
bundle. Stack trace.
20:55 <ctweney> hm, intriguing
20:55 <zacht> ctweney http://pastebin.com/XNfQbqbt
20:56 <zacht> ctweney What do they mean by no child node definition?
21:00 <ctweney> not sure what that means, zacht, but maybe it's to do with /var 
getting deleted. I'm testing it out on my local box.
21:01 <zacht>  /var has definitely been recreated.
21:01 <ctweney> I think scm-version is one of the only files that's a direct 
child of /var
21:02 <MrVisser> ping froese
21:02 <froese> pong mrvisser
21:03 <MrVisser> hey froese, I need to open up a port. do you have a preferred 
puppet module for that? there is an iptables puppet module I could use.
21:03 <froese> i don't actually. I'm used to running most of the cluster on a 
private network
21:04 <froese> but there are iptables modules. if puppet labs distributes on 
that'd be great
21:04 <MrVisser> ok I'll check that first. thanks.
21:07 <ctweney> zacht:  I found a clue here 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jackrabbit-users/201103.mbox/%[email protected]%3E
21:08 <ctweney> zacht:  on qa20 /var has "jcr:primaryType": "nt:folder"
21:08 <ctweney> zacht:  whereas on my machine it's sling:Folder, which allows 
for unstructured content underneath
21:09 <zacht> ctweney That explains step 1b. 
https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/Upgrading+OAE
21:09 <ctweney> yeah
21:09 <ctweney> but when we included step 1b, didn't we have problems with some 
pieces not loading?
21:11 <zacht> ctweney We assumed that was the cause.
21:13 <ctweney> I'm kind of stumped zacht
21:13 <zacht> ctweney I'm going to delete var, and see if we have better luck 
with some of these bundles.
21:14 <zacht> ctweney ok, now we have a sling:Folder
21:15 <ctweney> did you explicitly recreate /var zacht?
21:15 <zacht> ctweney I did.
21:15 <ctweney> ok, good experiment..
21:15 <zacht> ctweney I stopped and started the doc bundle, and now we have 
/var/scm-version.json
21:16 <ctweney> sadly, /var/search/activity/all.json is now 404
21:16 <ctweney> oh now it's 200
21:16 <zacht> ctweney Not sad, expected!
21:16 <ctweney> I was too quick :)
21:17 <zacht> ctweney According to the content reloader console, all the 
content is back in place.
21:18 <ctweney> very quick smoke test shows everything ok
21:18 <zacht> ctweney I wonder why this worked before, after kentfitz dropped 
step 1b from the upgrade.
21:24 <ctweney> zacht:  maybe sometimes /var gets recreated as nt:folder and 
other times as sling:Folder?
21:24 <zacht> ctweney It could depend on the order the bundles start up in.
21:26 <zacht> ctweney The search/impl bundle includes var.json My guess is that 
if search starts first, its properties will apply.
21:26 <ctweney> that'd be my guess too zacht
21:27 <ctweney> I'll see if I can repro here locally
21:31 <ctweney> this is some strange, strange stuff zacht
21:31 <ctweney> when I delete /var on my local machine there is still content 
there!
21:31 <zacht> ctweney Did you see any symptoms?
21:31 <zacht> ctweney Woah.
21:31 <ctweney> I delete var thusly: curle -u admin:admin 
http://localhost:8080/var -F":operation=delete"
21:32 <ctweney> and look at the content! http://pastebin.com/sQyN6bJW
21:33 <zacht> ctweney Does it really have no jcr:primaryType?
21:34 <zacht> ctweney Maybe .1.json is suppressing var's properties.
21:36 <MrVisser> ping froese: trying to add anthony as a user, but it's giving 
me an error on oae-community.sakaiproject.org:
21:36 <MrVisser> err: /Stage[main]/People::Users/User[arwhyte]/ensure: change 
from absent to present failed: Could not create user arwhyte: Execution of 
'/usr/sbin/useradd -u 799 -d /home/arwhyte -G wheel -m arwhyte' returned 9: 
useradd: group arwhyte exists - if you want to add this user to that group, use 
-g.
21:37 <froese> don't realize(Group['arwhyte']) in the people/manifest/init.pp
21:37 <MrVisser> froese: I see. why is that? everyone else is..
21:37 <froese> i think i forgot to take that out
21:38 <froese> it hung me up for a while, i removed it manually on the machine, 
I think I just forgot to commit it
21:38 <froese> i never commit from the nodes themselves
21:38 <MrVisser> ahh I see. delete everyone's?
21:38 <froese> yeah you can remove the realize(Group* lines
21:38 <ctweney> zacht:  can I delete /var on qa20 for an experiment?
21:39 <zacht> ctweney yeah, go for it.
21:41 <MrVisser> froese: that's not working.
21:41 <MrVisser> same error
21:41 <froese> groupdel arwhyte
21:42 <ctweney> zacht:  same result on qa20, /var still there after delete : 
http://pastebin.com/B3nMEwAe
21:42 <zacht> ctweney That's a strange notion of delete.
21:43 <ctweney> we are well and truly through the looking glass without a paddle
21:43 <MrVisser> froese good call. all better. thanks!
21:43 <froese> np. thanks for picking this up!
21:44 <froese> (not assigning it to you mrvisser, just good to have someone 
else who understands it.
21:44 <froese> )
21:44 <froese> (i hate (unclosed) parentheses)
21:45 <MrVisser> me too, thanks for fixing it up for me :)
21:46 <_mst> hope everyone's OK with unopened ones :)
21:46 <_mst> community service: (((((((
21:53 <MrVisser> haha nice… )))))))
21:54 <MrVisser> froese: anthony is installing the SSL cert right now on 
oae-performance, is there any puppeting that should be done to accommodate this 
to avoid wreckage on the next puppet update?
21:56 <froese> yes!
21:56 <froese> if you give me the certs and keys ill put them in puppet
21:56 <froese> then add them to  the apache::ghost delcarations
21:56 <froese> *apache::vhost
21:57 <froese> 
https://github.com/efroese/puppet-oae-example/blob/master/environments/community-cluster/modules/localconfig/manifests/nodes.pp#L64
21:58 <froese> they take more arguments 
https://github.com/efroese/puppet-apache/blob/master/manifests/vhost-ssl.pp#L35
21:59 <froese> damn you _mst
21:59 <froese> you make my OCD fly off the handle
22:00 <froese> i close my smiley-face parens
22:02 <MrVisser> froese: key and cert actually won't be ready until tomorrow. 
anthony is generating a csr..
22:02 <froese> womp womp
22:04 <MrVisser> needs them regenerated because the attrs aren't quite right.
22:14 <GitHub51> [nakamura] zathomas tagged 1.4.0-RC2 at 0baa48c: 
http://git.io/nxsViQ
22:14 <GitHub51> [nakamura/1.4.0-RC2] SOLR-72 add telemetry, resolve merge 
conflict - Carl Hall
22:14 <GitHub51> [nakamura/1.4.0-RC2] bind to sparsemap 1.3.6 and solr 1.4.3 - 
Zach A. Thomas
22:14 <GitHub51> [nakamura/1.4.0-RC2] release_pre_process: Moving config files 
from 1.4.0-SNAPSHOT to 1.4.0 - Zach A. Thomas
22:17 <GitHub31> [nakamura] zathomas pushed 6 new commits to 1.4.0: 
http://git.io/h8xq7w
22:17 <GitHub31> [nakamura/1.4.0] SOLR-72 add telemetry, resolve merge conflict 
- Carl Hall
22:17 <GitHub31> [nakamura/1.4.0] bind to sparsemap 1.3.6 and solr 1.4.3 - Zach 
A. Thomas
22:17 <GitHub31> [nakamura/1.4.0] release_pre_process: Moving config files from 
1.4.0-SNAPSHOT to 1.4.0 - Zach A. Thomas
22:29 <_mst> froese: one of the curses of IRCing from emacs is it highlights 
the matching paren whenever someone uses a smiley...
22:38 <elicochran> anyone know what's up with qa20? I wanted to regress a bug 
but the SignIn button appears to be unresponsive.
22:45 <ctweney> elicochran:  qa20's a bit hosed at the moment due to some 
testing zacht and I were doing
22:45 <elicochran> ctweney: thanks
22:45 <zacht> ctweney Do we just need the initial content back?
22:45 <ctweney> I think that's all we need zacht
22:45 <zacht> ctweney I can restart certain bundles, which is what worked last 
time.
22:46 <ctweney> if that'll restore everything then go for it zacht
22:52 <ctweney> elicochran:  you should be good to go on qa20 now
22:52 <ctweney> thanks zacht
22:53 <zacht> ctweney They didn't all come back in a whoosh this time. I had to 
tell each one of them to update.
22:53 <elicochran> ctweney: thank you, sir!
23:08 <elicochran> ctweney: all done, if you need it back... but I'm guessing 
you don't
23:24 <MrVisser> froese: are these amazon instance firewalls configured 
elsewhere? the iptables suggest that everything is accepted, but I'm having 
trouble opening up some ports. Is there an admin interface where I coud look at 
firewall settings?
23:26 <froese> kyle campos from rSmart manages it.
23:26 <froese> there are restrictions on communications between hosts
23:26 <froese> I'm not sure what they all are
23:27 <froese> mrvisser, what are you trying to configure?
23:28 <MrVisser> froese: just trying to open 4949/tcp for munin (os monitoring)

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