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00:12 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/kkygXw
00:12 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] SAKIII-6053 wait for autosuggest to load 
before using it - jsloane
00:12 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge pull request #2434 from 
bp323/SAKIII-6053 - Christian Vuerings
00:21 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.1: 
http://git.io/iCtcLQ
00:21 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6120 Cannot Add existing content to 
world - Bert Pareyn
00:21 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] Merge pull request #2432 from 
bp323/SAKIII-6120 - Christian Vuerings
00:24 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 1 new commit to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/TgjH7g
00:24 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge branch '1.4.1' into 1.4.2 - 
Christian Vuerings
00:24 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 2 new commits to master: 
http://git.io/cr7IPQ
00:24 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge branch '1.4.2' - Christian Vuerings
00:24 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge branch '1.4.2' - Christian Vuerings
00:26 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.1: 
http://git.io/DjTDNw
00:26 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6119 Remote Content Widget uses 
Files and Documents widget incorrectly - Bert Pareyn
00:26 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] Merge pull request #2433 from 
bp323/SAKIII-6119 - Christian Vuerings
00:27 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 1 new commit to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/lDsTuw
00:27 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge branch '1.4.1' into 1.4.2 - 
Christian Vuerings
00:39 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/rdX7kA
00:39 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] SAKIII-6095, added namespacing to 
.dialog_buttons and .selected so they don't leak into other widgets or the rest 
of the page - Eli Cochran
00:39 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge pull request #2439 from 
elicochran/SAKIII-6095 - Christian Vuerings
00:40 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 1 new commit to master: 
http://git.io/Mp6q-g
00:40 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge branch '1.4.2' - Christian Vuerings
04:04 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] christianv pushed 3 new commits to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/lB1nyw
04:04 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] SAKIII-6080 fix fetching data attributes - 
jsloane
04:04 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] SAKIII-6080 - jsloane
04:04 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge pull request #2450 from 
jsloane/SAKIII-6080-2 - Christian Vuerings
09:46 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to master: 
http://git.io/WN6w7A
09:46 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.2' - Bert Pareyn
10:23 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/1di9Tg
10:23 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.1' into 1.4.2 - Bert Pareyn
10:24 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to master: 
http://git.io/fQDMdw
10:24 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.2' - Bert Pareyn
10:50 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.1: 
http://git.io/RG3hxQ
10:50 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6122 - Role changes in Manage 
Participants are not applied - Christian Vuerings
10:50 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] Merge pull request #2444 from 
christianv/SAKIII-6122 - Bert Pareyn
10:54 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/sdYxsQ
10:54 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.1' into 1.4.2 - Bert Pareyn
10:54 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to master: 
http://git.io/CpopqQ
10:54 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.2' - Bert Pareyn
11:06 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.1: 
http://git.io/i73m9w
11:06 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6129 - Collections: Add Content - 
selecting content does not activate Add button - Christian Vuerings
11:06 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] Merge pull request #2449 from 
christianv/SAKIII-6129 - Bert Pareyn
11:07 <simong> arwhyte1: I hope you didn't lose your page you were editting on 
oae-community. I just had to take the server down to prevent any further new 
content being uploaded
11:07 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.1' into 1.4.2 - Bert Pareyn
11:07 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/wXjv_Q
11:08 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to master: 
http://git.io/W3j-7A
11:08 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge branch '1.4.2' - Bert Pareyn
11:28 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.1: 
http://git.io/6m1jEQ
11:28 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6123 - Emails sent to users added 
to worlds to world creation display field names rather than values - Christian 
Vuerings
11:28 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] Merge pull request #2445 from 
christianv/SAKIII-6123 - Bert Pareyn
11:31 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/goFn7Q
11:31 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.1' into 1.4.2 - Bert Pareyn
11:32 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to master: 
http://git.io/pHtuZA
11:32 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.2' - Bert Pareyn
11:42 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.1: 
http://git.io/aei1xQ
11:42 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6057 Adding unit tests for spacing 
issues with braces - Dean Angerer
11:42 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] Merge pull request #2455 from 
bp323/SAKIII-6057 - Bert Pareyn
12:16 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/FsbXvQ
12:16 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.1' into 1.4.2 - Bert Pareyn
12:16 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to master: 
http://git.io/BVcYjg
12:16 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.2' - Bert Pareyn
12:29 <simong> stuartf: Do you think it would be OK to run the preview 
processor for oae-community on qa21 or should we keep it locally?
12:31 <simong> or perhaps kentfitz has an idea?
12:45 <kentfitz> simong: qa21 is running preview processor for a couple of 
instances already. Running it over on that instance was actually my original 
proposal but it was decided to try running it on the same box. We could look at 
doing it as far as I'm concerned
12:45 <simong> Ok
12:46 <simong> curl I'll try to set it up on qa21 than :)
12:46 <simong> -curl
12:47 <simong> I ran into the same directory.tagged problem as you did btw
12:50 <kentfitz> simong: ok , let me know how it goes. We'll just need qa21 
running the preview processor for todays bug bash. One thing for it running for 
community is that it will take a chunk longer to upload processed pages because 
qa21 lives in a different datacenter than oae-community. qa21 is California. I 
think community is in Atlanta
12:50 <kentfitz> shouldn't be a show stopper. qa21 is uploading to qa22 and 
they are in different datacenters, just takes longer to get the data over
12:51 <simong> Sure, thanks for the heads  up
13:05 <simong> kentfitz: Do you need to config the ServerProtectionService to 
allow requests from qa21 ?
13:06 <simong> the preview processor is running and able to access 
/var/search/needsprocessing, but the results don't get back in
13:07 <kentfitz> simong: Not that I recall. I don't have any SPS entries for 
qa21 on qa22 and results are getting uploaded just fine
13:07 <simong> I'm getting 
org.sakaiproject.nakamura.auth.trusted.TrustedTokenServiceImpl Unable to inject 
token; unable to determine user from request.
13:12 <PhysX> stuartf ping
13:18 <stuartf> PhysX: pong
13:18 <PhysX> stuartf hi! quick question about SAKIII-6056. Do you consider 
that one done or do you want to add something else to it
13:19 <stuartf> PhysX: I think it's done, there are a bunch of people using 
Sublime now, but if we want to share configs around for that we should probably 
get them from someone who's actually using it
13:20 <PhysX> stuartf: jup sounds like a plan, I can bring that up on list
13:36 <simong> kentfitz: I can only get the preview_processor to work on qa21 
if I disable the server protection service
13:38 <stuartf> http://r-wos.org/hacks/gti
13:38 <kentfitz> simong: let me compare the sps settings on community to the 
other servers.
13:38 <simong> Thanks
14:16 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] nicolaasmatthijs pushed 3 new commits to 1.4.1: 
http://git.io/KgV8ZA
14:16 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6137 Editing/removing files form 
the queue in the add content widget does not work - Bert Pareyn
14:16 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.1' into SAKIII-6137 - Bert Pareyn
14:16 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6137 Fix append issue - Bert Pareyn
14:23 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] nicolaasmatthijs pushed 2 new commits to 1.4.2: 
http://git.io/McsTKA
14:23 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge branch '1.4.1' into 1.4.2 - Nicolaas 
Matthijs
14:23 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.2] Merge branch '1.4.2' of 
github.com:sakaiproject/3akai-ux into 1.4.2 - Nicolaas Matthijs
14:36 <simong> Does anyone have any suggestions about how we should monitor our 
instances ?
14:37 <simong> I was thinking nagios but that might be a bit overkill?
14:38 <stuartf> nagios is probably the most popular open source monitoring suite
14:39 <stuartf> mon is a little more simple, but doesn't have as much of a 
community around it
14:39 <stuartf> https://mon.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
14:40 <simong> I've never really configured anything like this so I'm 
completely open to suggestions
14:40 <stuartf> I'd probably go with nagios
14:41 <simong> ok cool
14:41 <simong> I have it running on one instance
14:44 <stuartf> it might also be worth setting up something like munin or cacti
14:44 <stuartf> I think there's actually a munin plugin that can consume the 
nakamura telemetry data
15:02 <simong> I think the idea is that we're not doing the telemetry stuff 
anymore and that we rely on perf4j (and maybe write an adapter that takes in 
perf4j data and ouputs something like munin)
15:15 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to master: 
http://git.io/Njp-Sg
15:15 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/master] Merge remote-tracking branch 
'origin/1.4.2' - Bert Pareyn
15:18 <MrVisser> simong stuartf: after a kern ticket assigned to me, Telemetry 
will be gone. There is another kern open for making a resmon log appender for 
perf4j.
15:18 <MrVisser> I think some monitoring tools can consume resmon and do their 
own number-crunching.
15:20 <stuartf> right, the current telemetry info is in resmon format, and 
there is apparently a munin plugin to read it
16:11 <MrVisser> simongee: what would you like your username to be for the ec2 
cluster?
16:12 <MrVisser> (please disregard my email if you send it here :))
16:12 <simongee> 'simong' is fine
16:12 <simongee> or do you need something more unique?
16:13 <MrVisser> nope, we don't have any others on the team that would compete 
for it, so it's fine :)
16:30 <kentfitz> Welcome everyone to the August 16th bug bash for the 1.4.1 
release
16:30 <kentfitz> The server is up and available at 
https://qa20-us.sakaiproject.org:8088
16:30 <kentfitz> Please see the following link for known issues
16:30 <kentfitz> 
https://jira.sakaiproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=13488
16:30 <kentfitz> If you have not already signed up to test with a specific 
browser, please do so on the bug bash confluence page: 
https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/Bug+Bashes
16:33 <denbuzze> dean440: For SAKIII-6140 which URL are you using? And does it 
still persist when you restart the browser?
16:34 <dean440> denbuzze I was using 
https://qa20-us.sakaiproject.org:8088/register I believe. Is there another URL 
to access registration?
16:35 <dean440> denbuzze Ah, I see
16:35 <dean440> denbuzze It seems to occur when you click the "No account yet? 
Sign Up" link inside of the "Sign In" overlay on the top right.
16:36 <dean440> I'll mark that in the JIRA
16:39 <kentfitz> can anyone else get role changes to apply in manage 
participants on worlds? If not, I'll reopen SAKIII-6122
16:39 <dean440> denbuzze and yes that issue persists after I restart the 
browser, but not after I clear the browser cache.
16:39 <denbuzze> dean440: k, def worth mentioning as well
16:40 <kentfitz> huh, weird. Just worked in FF on a group. Testing courses 
where I still saw the problem in Safari
16:45 <denbuzze> kentfitz: just tried it in IE9 and it seems to be working for 
me
16:45 <kentfitz> dean440: can you check that issue against 
http://qa22-us.sakaiproject.org/. It's running pure 1.4.0 and that will tell us 
if it's anything to do with the code formatting changes
16:45 <kentfitz> denbuzze: did you use a group or a course?
16:46 <dean440> kentfitz Sure thing
16:46 <denbuzze> kentfitz: group - I'll try it with a course now
16:46 <kentfitz> denbuzze: Cool. I reopened with a comment that it looked fixed 
in groups, but I still see it in courses. Tried changing a student to a lecturer
16:47 <dean440> kentfitz Well, it doesn't show up there, but then again it 
doesn't on qa20 anymore either since I cleared the browser cache.
16:48 <kentfitz> denbuzze: Hmmmm, I can't reproduce that role change in Firefox 
now. Let me try it on Safari again
16:49 <kentfitz> dean440: Ok, if you can add that to the comments that'd be 
great.
16:49 <denbuzze> dean440: I was only able to reproduce it occasionally when I 
restart the browser and go directly to the /register page
16:49 <denbuzze> kentfitz: in IE9 it seems to be working as well for a course
16:50 <dean440> brb
16:50 <kentfitz> denbuzze: Ok, thanks. I'm seeing weirdness with that in Safari 
5.1.2. Go ahead and assign to me if you'd like and I'll try to get more info.
16:53 <denbuzze> kentfitz: was able to reproduce it in Safari 6 as well, if you 
restart the browser, do you see it being updated correctly?
16:54 <nicolaas> My impression is that we've got a number of issues that are 
all caused by the same bug
16:54 <kentfitz> denbuzze: restarting after manually clearing cache now.
16:54 <nicolaas> from time to time, pages are empty in IE
16:55 <nicolaas> must be a racing issue, but it's going to be a tough one to 
chase
16:55 <kentfitz> denbuzze: this is what I seeing prior to the restart. Trying 
again now. http://screencast.com/t/xWxdnfpZVcF
16:56 <kentfitz> denbuzze: Safari is still having issues after the cleared 
cache and restart. Testing on 1.4.0 now
17:00 <denbuzze> kentfitz: I see the same behavior. The thing I'm wondering 
about is that when you change the role, reset & restart the browser, if the 
role then is fine. I also think James might already have a fix for this. I 
linked the issues together
17:00 <denbuzze> kentfitz: for me, when I restart the browser, it seems to be 
fine
17:00 <kentfitz> denbuzze: It looks like just logging out and logging back in 
fixes it on 1.4.0. Trying that on 1.4.1 now.
17:02 <kentfitz> denbuzze: Safari 5.1.2: In 1.4.1, even after logging out, or 
restarting, I am getting inconsistency in my participants list on the 
participants page vs the manage participants pane. Looks worse in 1.4.1, 
although there was some issue in 1.4.0
17:06 <denbuzze> kentfitz: def very useful - can you add those things to the 
ticket?
17:07 <kentfitz> denbuzze; Heh, just was
17:09 <dean440> kentfitz Did you make me a manager of the Pets group?
17:11 <kentfitz> dean440: yep
17:14 <kentfitz> Bug Bash: 15 minutes left everyone
17:28 <kentfitz> Bug Bashers: We've just got a couple of minutes left. The 
server will remain up for anyone who wants to continue testing off and on 
throughout the day. Thank you all for your participation!
18:34 <simongee> stuartf: I've setup nagios and it's currently checking http 
for: oae-demo, oae-community, qa20-us and qa22-us. Anything else I should add?
18:35 <thecarlhall> ping denbuzze
18:39 <stuartf> simongee: you could have it also check http on the content port 
:8082
18:40 <simongee> oh good idea
18:40 <stuartf> also, it could check that the db is up for any that are on 
postgres
18:40 <stuartf> could check smtp since they send mail
18:40 <MrVisser> simongee: can you please try and ssh into: 
ec2-204-236-168-81.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com
18:41 <MrVisser> if you can do that, then I'll repuppet the other servers.
18:41 <simongee> mrvisser: Yep, I can ssh into it
18:41 <MrVisser> perfect, thanks.
18:42 <stuartf> I guess it could also check solr
18:42 <simongee> Cool, I'll add those to my list
18:42 <simongee> I need to read up on what the exact difference is between a 
hostgroup and a servicegroup though ^^
18:47 <denbuzze> thecarlhall: pong
18:48 <thecarlhall> denbuzze, I was taking a look at KERN-2820
18:48 <stuartf> simongee: a hostgroup is a group of hosts and a servicegroup is 
a group of services
18:48 <thecarlhall> denbuzze, and wondering if you're referencing the storage 
structure or something that's returned in a feed
18:50 <denbuzze> thecarlhall: it's something returned from a feed, it was 
actually a suggestion by ctweney.
18:52 <thecarlhall> denbuzze, which feed is that?
18:55 <denbuzze> thecarlhall: it has been a while since I last touched it, I 
tested this with ctweney's latest activity branch - 
https://github.com/ctweney/nakamura/tree/kern-2779
18:55 <denbuzze> thecarlhall: the last update to that was +4 months ago
18:57 <denbuzze> thecarlhall: I
18:57 <denbuzze> thecarlhall: if I'm not mistaken the URL was 
http://localhost:8080/var/search/activity/world.json?group=g1&group=g1-member&group=g1-manager
18:57 <thecarlhall> denbuzze, thanks. I'll make a note to the JIRA.
19:13 <MrVisser> simongee: you should have access to all machines in the 
cluster described here: 
https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/OAE+Performance+Testing+Cluster
19:13 <simongee> Cool, thanks!
19:14 <MrVisser> simongee: actually not the load driver yet..
19:15 <simongee> No rush, I won't have much time this week or the next 
unfortunately :(
19:48 <lancespeelmon> package; (package=org.sakaiproject.nakamura.api.proxy) 
[caused by: Unable to resolve 89.0: missing requirement [89.0] package; 
(package=com.ibm.uvm.tools)
19:48 <lancespeelmon> is this telling me that 
org.sakaiproject.nakamura.api.proxy now has a runtime dependency on 
com.ibm.uvm.tools?
20:00 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux] bp323 pushed 1 new commit to 1.4.1: 
http://git.io/nziJBw
20:00 <SakaiGithub> [3akai-ux/1.4.1] SAKIII-6061 - Create unit test to test 
single quotes - Dean Angerer
20:07 <simongee> Is anybody getting on calliflower?
20:07 <ctweney> calliflower was awol for a minute there, but it's working now, 
simongee
20:08 <simongee> Ah yea, it just connected
20:38 <lancespeelmon> moral of the story, don't try to upgrade log4j from 
1.2.12 to 1.2.17 :)
20:39 <lancespeelmon> log4j 1.2.16 and 1.2.17 have some crazy dependency on 
com.ibm.uvm.tools
20:40 <thecarlhall> lancespeelmon, wow, that's unfortunate
20:40 <thecarlhall> lancespeelmon, I prefer to use logback when possible
23:47 <GitHub114> [nakamura] thecarlhall pushed 2 new commits to master: 
http://git.io/K3NXqQ
23:47 <GitHub114> [nakamura/master] KERN-3130 Upgrade some of our 3rd party 
dependencies to latest release version - Lance Speelmon
23:47 <GitHub114> [nakamura/master] Merge pull request #982 from 
lancespeelmon/KERN-3130 - Carl Hall
23:48 <lancespeelmon> thecarlhall: I played with upgrading activemq but that 
turned out to be bigger than I expected
23:48 <thecarlhall> lancespeelmon, I've been thinking of moving us to 5.6.0 but 
didn't know if that would be a hassle
23:48 <thecarlhall> lancespeelmon, thanks for all the upgrades!
23:48 <lancespeelmon> sure
23:49 <lancespeelmon> I upgraded everything in one fell swoop and then debugged 
error messages most of the day :P
23:51 <lancespeelmon> PS - I am becoming a habitual offender of git commit 
—amend - should I feel bad?  :)

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