curl -XDELETE http://search1.oae.esup-portail.org:9200/oae -v * Adding handle: conn: 0x7f8e4b003a00 * Adding handle: send: 0 * Adding handle: recv: 0 * Curl_addHandleToPipeline: length: 1 * - Conn 0 (0x7f8e4b003a00) send_pipe: 1, recv_pipe: 0 * About to connect() to search1.oae.esup-portail.org port 9200 (#0) * Trying 172.16.66.48... * Connected to search1.oae.esup-portail.org (172.16.66.48) port 9200 (#0) > DELETE /oae HTTP/1.1 > User-Agent: curl/7.30.0 > Host: search1.oae.esup-portail.org:9200 > Accept: */* > < HTTP/1.1 200 OK < Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8 < Content-Length: 31 < * Connection #0 to host search1.oae.esup-portail.org left intact {"ok":true,"acknowledged":true}
but i have the same error Le 13 mars 2014 à 18:34, frederic dooremont <frederic.doorem...@univ-littoral.fr> a écrit : > > curl -XDELETED http://search1.oae.esup-portail.org:9200/oae -v > * Adding handle: conn: 0x7f9043003a00 > * Adding handle: send: 0 > * Adding handle: recv: 0 > * Curl_addHandleToPipeline: length: 1 > * - Conn 0 (0x7f9043003a00) send_pipe: 1, recv_pipe: 0 > * About to connect() to search1.oae.esup-portail.org port 9200 (#0) > * Trying 172.16.66.48... > * Connected to search1.oae.esup-portail.org (172.16.66.48) port 9200 (#0) > > DELETED /oae HTTP/1.1 > > User-Agent: curl/7.30.0 > > Host: search1.oae.esup-portail.org:9200 > > Accept: */* > > > < HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request > < Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > < Content-Length: 48 > < > * Connection #0 to host search1.oae.esup-portail.org left intact > No handler found for uri [/oae] and method [GET]M > > > ???? > > Le 13 mars 2014 à 18:26, Branden Visser <mrvis...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> The log indicates the index wasn't deleted. Was the curl request to >> delete the search index successful? >> >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:22 PM, frederic dooremont >> <frederic.doorem...@univ-littoral.fr> wrote: >>> >>> this is hilary log : >>> >>> >>> {"name":"oae","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Starting >>> OAE","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:15.647Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Starting >>> modules: oae-util, oae-logger, oae-telemetry, oae-tenants, oae-config, >>> oae-authentication, oae-search, oae-discussions, oae-email, oae-following, >>> oae-google-analytics, oae-library, oae-activity, oae-content, >>> oae-messagebox, oae-preview-processor, oae-principals, oae-profiles, >>> oae-release-tools, oae-rest, oae-context, oae-authz, oae-doc, oae-tests, >>> oae-tincanapi, oae-ui, >>> oae-mediacore","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:15.762Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"signature","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":40,"msg":"You are >>> using the default key to sign URLs, this is *NOT* secure and should be >>> changed immediately.\nThe system will continue to function, but it is >>> strongly recommended that you change your >>> key.\n","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.002Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-cleaner","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"interval":7200,"directory":"/tmp/oae","msg":"Starting >>> clean job.","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.002Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"mq","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initializing >>> RabbitMQ connector","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.003Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"mq","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Connection to >>> RabbitMQ established.","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.052Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"mq","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"queueName":"oae-util-mq-redeliverqueue","msg":"Created/Retrieved >>> a RabbitMQ queue","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.056Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initialized >>> module oae-util","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.059Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-logger","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Refreshing >>> log configuration","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.062Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initialized >>> module oae-logger","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.062Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initialized >>> module oae-telemetry","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.065Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initialized >>> module oae-tenants","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.118Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initialized >>> module oae-config","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.197Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-authentication","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Registered >>> authentication strategy \"cas\"","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.486Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-authentication","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Registered >>> authentication strategy >>> \"facebook\"","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.505Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-authentication","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Registered >>> authentication strategy \"google\"","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.531Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-authentication","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Registered >>> authentication strategy \"ldap\"","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.643Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-authentication","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Registered >>> authentication strategy \"local\"","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.657Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-authentication","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Registered >>> authentication strategy >>> \"shibboleth\"","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.726Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-authentication","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Registered >>> authentication strategy \"signed\"","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.746Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-authentication","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Registered >>> authentication strategy >>> \"twitter\"","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.775Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initialized >>> module oae-authentication","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.775Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"elasticsearchclient","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"config":{"index":"oae","serverOpts":{"hosts":[{"host":"search1.oae.esup-portail.org","port":9200},{"host":"search2.oae.esup-portail.org","port":9200}]}},"msg":"Refreshed >>> search configuration.","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.788Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"mq","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"queueName":"oae-search/index","msg":"Created/Retrieved >>> a RabbitMQ queue","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.791Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"mq","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"queueName":"oae-search/delete","msg":"Created/Retrieved >>> a RabbitMQ queue","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.795Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"mq","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"queueName":"oae-search/reindex","msg":"Created/Retrieved >>> a RabbitMQ queue","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.799Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initialized >>> module oae-search","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:16.823Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"elasticsearchclient","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"typeData":{"discussion_message":{"_source":{"enabled":false},"properties":{"body":{"type":"string","store":"no","index":"analyzed","analyzer":"message"}},"_parent":{"type":"resource"}}},"msg":"Creating >>> new search type mapping.","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:17.002Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae-modules","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":50,"err":{"error":"MapperParsingException[Analyzer >>> [message] not found for field [body]]","status":400},"msg":"Error >>> initializing module >>> oae-discussions","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:17.008Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"oae","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"All modules >>> are bootstrapped, initializing >>> servers.","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:17.008Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"system","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":50,"err":{"error":"MapperParsingException[Analyzer >>> [message] not found for field [body]]","status":400},"msg":"Error >>> initializing server.","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:17.008Z","v":0} >>> {"name":"system","hostname":"angel","pid":14043,"level":30,"msg":"Initialization >>> all done ... Firing up tenants ... >>> Enjoy!","time":"2014-03-13T17:21:17.008Z","v":0} >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 13 mars 2014 à 18:12, Branden Visser <mrvis...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Frederic, the log lines being shown indicate that the server did >>> not start up properly. >>> >>> Can you share the log during startup? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Branden >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:03 PM, frederic dooremont >>> <frederic.doorem...@univ-littoral.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I followed your cookbook but i have the same error : >>> >>> >>> in log hilary : >>> [2014-03-13T16:52:52.482Z] INFO: oae-server/10242 on polaris: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/ui/skin) >>> [2014-03-13T16:52:52.752Z] INFO: oae-server/10242 on polaris: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/me) >>> >>> in log nginx : >>> >>> ==> /var/log/nginx/error.log <== >>> 2014/03/13 17:53:09 [error] 3536#0: *84 open() >>> "/usr/share/nginx/html/unavailable" failed (2: No such file or directory), >>> client: 172.19.195.69, server: admin.oae.esup-portail.org, request: "GET >>> /unavailable HTTP/1.1", host: "admin.oae.esup-portail.org", referrer: >>> "https://admin.oae.esup-portail.org/"; >>> >>> ==> /var/log/nginx/access.log <== >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:17:53:09 +0100] "GET /unavailable HTTP/1.1" >>> 404 168 "https://admin.oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel >>> Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.74.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.2 >>> Safari/537.74.9" >>> 127.0.0.1 - - [13/Mar/2014:17:55:00 +0100] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 301 184 "-" >>> "Wget/1.13.4 (linux-gnu)" >>> >>> >>> >>> if i start https://admin.oae.esup-portail.org my browser url , my browser >>> indicate https://admin.oae.esup-portail.org/unavailable url >>> >>> >>> my process is : >>> nginx stop update 3sakai server WEB >>> hilary stop update 3sakai and hilary server APP >>> curl -XDELETE http://search:9200/oae >>> I restarted server search >>> i start APP >>> I start WEB >>> >>> >>> >>> thanks for your help >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 13 mars 2014 à 17:50, Branden Visser <mrvis...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>> I just wanted to point out that the request in step [3] is a regular >>> x-www-urlencoded request >>> >>> >>> Oops! Thanks for the correction. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Simon Gaeremynck >>> <gaeremyn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> All that is correct, I just wanted to point out that the request in step [3] >>> is a regular x-www-urlencoded request. >>> jQuery just converts the `data` object into the appropriate HTTP request. >>> The `revision_mime` array results in a POST parameter of the form >>> `revision_mime=<value>` for each value. >>> See http://cl.ly/image/3U1g340M322C as to how that may look like >>> >>> You could do it with curl if you really wanted to: >>> curl http://admin.oae.com/api/content/reprocessPreviews >>> -d"revision_mime=application/msword" -d"revision_mime=application/rdf+xml" >>> -d ... >>> >>> As Branden said though, it's often much easier to do it from the browser >>> console. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On 13 Mar 2014, at 15:54, Branden Visser <mrvis...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Frederic, >>> >>> For upgrading from 4.3 to 4.4, you'll need to: >>> >>> * Delete the 'oae' elasticsearch index [1], restart your application >>> servers and then reindex [2] >>> * Reprocess all PDF Document / MS Word previews [3] >>> >>> [1] >>> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/docs-delete.html >>> (e.g., curl -XDELETE http://search:9200/oae) >>> >>> [2] To reindex, send a POST request as global admin to the global >>> admin server: http://admin.oae.com/api/search/reindexAll >>> >>> [3] Use the reprocessPreviews API to reprocess all revisions filtering >>> to the applicable mime-types. This is what we reprocessed with in our >>> production deployment: >>> >>> $.ajax({ >>> 'type': 'POST', >>> 'url': '/api/content/reprocessPreviews', >>> 'data': { >>> 'revision_mime': [ >>> 'application/msword', >>> 'application/rdf+xml', >>> 'application/vnd.ms-excel', >>> 'application/vnd.ms-powerpoint', >>> 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.presentation', >>> 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet', >>> 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text', >>> >>> 'application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation', >>> 'application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.spreadsheetml.sheet', >>> >>> 'application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document', >>> 'application/x-mspowerpoint', >>> 'application/x-pdf', >>> 'application/x-powerpoint', >>> 'text/plain', >>> 'application/pdf' >>> ] >>> } >>> }); >>> >>> Note for this query it isn't x-www-urlencoded data, I believe it's a >>> JSON data request body. I'd recommend using the web browser developer >>> console to invoke this request as global admin using jQuery rather >>> than using cURL. The benefit to this technique is that you don't have >>> to acquire a session using cURL and store it in an environment >>> variable, the web developer console will use your current web browsing >>> cookies. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Branden >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Frédéric Dooremont >>> <frederic.doorem...@univ-littoral.fr> wrote: >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> I have update my hosting in 4.4 but i have lot of error in hilary log file : >>> >>> [2014-03-13T15:27:14.293Z] ERROR: system/1884 on iceberg: Error initializing >>> server. >>> err: { >>> "error": >>> "RemoteTransportException[[N'Garai][inet[/172.16.66.48:9300]][indices/mapping/put]]; >>> nested: MapperParsingException[Analyzer [message] not found for field >>> [body]]; ", >>> "status": 400 >>> } >>> [2014-03-13T15:27:14.293Z] INFO: system/1884 on iceberg: Initialization all >>> done ... Firing up tenants ... Enjoy! >>> [2014-03-13T15:30:05.132Z] INFO: oae-server/1884 on iceberg: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/ui/skin) >>> [2014-03-13T15:30:05.663Z] INFO: oae-server/1884 on iceberg: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/me) >>> [2014-03-13T15:30:14.694Z] INFO: oae-server/1884 on iceberg: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/ui/skin) >>> [2014-03-13T15:30:14.955Z] INFO: oae-server/1884 on iceberg: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/me) >>> [2014-03-13T15:33:33.639Z] INFO: oae-server/1884 on iceberg: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/ui/skin) >>> [2014-03-13T15:33:33.877Z] INFO: oae-server/1884 on iceberg: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/me) >>> [2014-03-13T15:33:34.000Z] INFO: oae-server/1884 on iceberg: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/ui/skin) >>> [2014-03-13T15:33:34.150Z] INFO: oae-server/1884 on iceberg: Rejecting >>> request during shutdown with 502 error. (path=/api/me) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> and in nginx log i have : >>> >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:30 +0100] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1318 "-" >>> "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, >>> like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET >>> /shared/oae/css/oae.core.85afb776.css HTTP/1.1" 200 27055 >>> "https://oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X >>> 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET >>> /ui/css/oae.index.ae10bee6.css HTTP/1.1" 200 542 >>> "https://oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X >>> 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET /api/ui/skin HTTP/1.1" >>> 502 38 "https://oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS >>> X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET >>> /shared/oae/api/oae.bootstrap.e0694d70.js HTTP/1.1" 200 1255 >>> "https://oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X >>> 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET >>> /shared/oae/api/oae.core.8e544aa1.js HTTP/1.1" 200 84301 >>> "https://oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X >>> 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET /api/me HTTP/1.1" 502 38 >>> "https://oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X >>> 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET /unavailable HTTP/1.1" >>> 200 727 "https://oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac >>> OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET >>> /shared/oae/css/oae.skin.static.37f7bd08.css HTTP/1.1" 200 402 >>> "https://oae.esup-portail.org/unavailable"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel >>> Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET >>> /shared/oae/errors/css/oae.error.afdd4559.css HTTP/1.1" 200 781 >>> "https://oae.esup-portail.org/unavailable"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel >>> Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET /api/ui/skin HTTP/1.1" >>> 502 38 "https://oae.esup-portail.org/unavailable"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; >>> Intel Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) >>> Chrome/33.0.1750.146 Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET >>> /shared/vendor/css/opensans/font/opensans-lightitalic-webfont.2dd61097.woff >>> HTTP/1.1" 200 27396 "https://oae.esup-portail.org/"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; >>> Intel Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) >>> Chrome/33.0.1750.146 Safari/537.36" >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET >>> /shared/oae/errors/js/unavailable.a860d0d2.js HTTP/1.1" 200 139 >>> "https://oae.esup-portail.org/unavailable"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel >>> Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.146 >>> Safari/537.36" >>> >>> ==> /var/log/nginx/error.log <== >>> 2014/03/13 16:33:31 [error] 27272#0: *32 no live upstreams while connecting >>> to upstream, client: 172.19.195.69, server: oae.esup-portail.org, request: >>> "GET /api/me HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://tenantworkers/api/me";, host: >>> "oae.esup-portail.org", referrer: "https://oae.esup-portail.org/unavailable"; >>> >>> ==> /var/log/nginx/access.log <== >>> 172.19.195.69 - - [13/Mar/2014:16:33:31 +0100] "GET /api/me HTTP/1.1" 502 >>> 1827 "https://oae.esup-portail.org/unavailable"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; >>> Intel Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) >>> Chrome/33.0.1750.146 Safari/537.36" >>> >>> >>> >>> can you help me please ? >>> >>> kings >>> frederic >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> oae-dev mailing list >>> oae-dev@collab.sakaiproject.org >>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> oae-dev mailing list >>> oae-dev@collab.sakaiproject.org >>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > oae-dev mailing list > oae-dev@collab.sakaiproject.org > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev
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