The redirection flow works well on a desktop or a well implemented
mobile platform. It sucks on a set top box or a mobile platform with a
poor browser and an inability to relaunch the app. Just because we as
technical minds find it intuitive enough doesn't mean that my
grandmother will. Nonetheless, Lukas makes a very compelling point
about granularity that is insoluble with my argument and has
effectively shut me up, for now.

On Sep 29, 3:03 pm, Blaine Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2009/9/29 James Wanga <[email protected]>:
>
>
>
> > I completely agree that having a single point of authentication is
> > ideal. However, security and usability have always been an
> > inharmonious pair. When a new pattern offers a significant security
> > improvement in exchange for an marginal usability sacrifice, we adopt
> > it. The danger of the redirection pattern is that it asks for a
> > usability sacrifice in exchange for an imaginary security improvement.
> > The only security value is that users MAY, over time, grow skeptical
> > of entering their credentials in third party apps. This can be easily
> > mitigated by more sophisticated phishing sites. The bottom line is, we
> > gain so little from redirection that isn't worth the usability penalty
> > no matter how unpalatable it is to enter your creds in a third party
> > app.
>
> I'm getting a little sick of the argument that the redirection flow
> has worse usability than entering a username / password. The redirect
> flow is straight-forward and easy to understand. There are plenty of
> applications that are deployed, using this method, and to great
> success. Just because some designers get persnickety that they don't
> have complete control over the experience doesn't mean it's bad.
>
> b.
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