> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Paul C. Bryan
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:12 PM

> 3. In-browser capabilities (e.g. JavaScript) for manipulating JSON-structured
> data.
> 
> That said, there would probably need to be some restrictions on JSON
> encoding in order to support normalization. See
> http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/SignedDocuments for issues they've had to
> deal with on this front.

These two statements are contradictory because whatever issues there are, it is 
unlikely that the in-browser support will be able to work around it, leading to 
more errors and confusion than being helpful.

EHL

> 
> Paul
> 
> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 19:42 -0700, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:
> > I don't think we had enough discussion for a consensus call but I would like
> to continue with some combination of A and C. That means, defining a
> message format to normalize the request into (which can be used with XMPP
> and other transports), but to still process the HTTP request and not the API
> request into the message. In other words, not process parameters but still
> turn the request into a message.
> >
> > I will try this in my next draft.
> >
> > My question: what format should we use for this message? The main four
> options are:
> >
> > 1. XML
> > 2. JSON
> > 3. Form-encoded (key=value&key=value)
> > 4. Text (key-value pair new line separated, or HTTP-header like
> > key="value" comma, etc.)
> >
> > My thinking is: XML is crazy here (complication without benefits), JSON is
> interesting but doesn't add much value beyond other options (unless we
> foresee the need for lists or richer value types), Form-encoded is ok but has
> to be specified due to variations in libraries (well-known OAuth issue), and
> Text is easy but requires a custom parser and we need to choose a style.
> >
> > I am inclined to use Text (key=value LF) but can be talked into Form-
> encoded or even JSON.
> >
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > EHL
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > > Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:41 PM
> > > To: OAuth WG
> > > Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Request Signing vs. API Signing vs. Message
> > > Signing
> > >
> > > Authentication Open Question #1: What to sign?
> > >
> > > OAuth Core 1.0 was designed to sign API requests made using common
> > > form-encoded formats. The main component of the 1.0 signature base
> > > string are the parameters. The host and HTTP methods are important
> > > but were never the focus on the signed content.
> > >
> > > draft-hammer-oauth does not change the process but does describe the
> > > process very differently, changing the focus form signing API
> > > requests and parameters to signing HTTP requests (partially).
> > > draft-hammer-http-token-auth takes this approach a step further and
> > > focuses on signing the raw HTTP request components, completely
> > > ignoring their meaning as used by API calls. The end result is very
> > > similar but the differences are important.
> > >
> > > Brian Eaton proposed [1] an alternative approach to sign messages
> > > instead of API calls or HTTP request. In his proposal, the HTTP
> > > request (or API call based on your perspective) in transformed into
> > > a message (in his case using a JSON- based format) which is then
> > > signed. This additional layer of abstraction allows the use of the
> > > method with other transports or use cases in which parameters are not
> sent in the request URI or body.
> > >
> > > QUESTION: Do you prefer:
> > >
> > > A. Directly processing the HTTP request into a base string for
> > > signing (draft- hammer-oauth style).
> > > B. Treating the request as an API call with form-encoded parameters
> > > (OAuth
> > > 1.0 style).
> > > C. Converting the request into a normalized message and signing that
> > > (Eaton style).
> > >
> > > EHL
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg00890.html
> > >
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