Hey Hannes, I'd like to at least explain my reasoning behind not planning to
go to the China meeting because it really isn't restrictions around travel.
This is likely inpolitic to say, but it's because of how much of a waste of
my time the LA meeting was. The LA meeting contained numerous people who
weren't – and still aren't – engaged in this working group who felt that
they should argue with us repeatedly around how what we were doing was wrong
and already solved by Kerberos. That trip was only two days, but China will
easily be a week. So for me it is about what is the best use of my time, not
just how much it costs.

I'd love to have another face to face meeting between people working
actively on deploying OAuth 2.0. I hope that IIW in a few weeks will provide
a venue for some of that. But if it's in Europe then I'll go to Europe. For
me it is about who is (and isn't) going to be there rather than where the
meeting is physically located.

--David


On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Torsten,
>
> We have to figure out what the most efficient way is to get our work
> done.
>
> With the Prague IETF we will see again whether there is a need for
> face-to-face meeting. We had phone conference calls earlier this year as
> well. That's another option to make progress in addition to the usage of
> the mailing list.
>
> Attending the IETF meetings is useful to get a better understanding of
> the big picture and that's why I go there.  However, I understand that
> others have travel restrictions. Meetings outside the US, like this one,
> are obviously more expensive for those who are based in the US.
>
> Ciao
> Hannes
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of ext [email protected]
> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 2:13 PM
> > To: Eliot Lear; [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth session at IETF-79
> >
> > What is the alternative from your point of view?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Torsten.
> > ------Originalnachricht------
> > Von: Eliot Lear
> > An:[email protected]<an%[email protected]>
> > Cc:Lodderstedt, Torsten
> > Cc:[email protected] <cc%[email protected]>
> > Betreff: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth session at IETF-79
> > Gesendet: 15. Okt. 2010 13:10
> >
> >  I agree with Hannes' approach.  What happened in Maastricht
> > was that we
> > ended up with  bifurcated discussions- in the room and on the list.
> > That didn't seem very productive.
> >
> >
> > Gesendet mit BlackBerry(r) Webmail von Telekom Deutschland
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