> since it expires in 3 to 6 months

No, 6 hours or 3 months.
3 months when user approved long-time access, 6 hours when not.
(Mixi has a checkbox on authorization page for that, so an client can have both 
kind of refresh_tokens)

The only way to know the refresh_token lifetime is try to refresh after 6+ 
hours in this case.

On 2011/02/04, at 9:35, Phil Hunt wrote:

> I think this is a matter of frequency. Since an access token might expire 
> frequently (e.g. in seconds rather than days or months), it is worth having 
> the client calculate to see if a token has expired (by returning expires_in). 
> It has the effect of saving the client/server a failed request/response round 
> trip that might occur fairly frequently.
> 
> In the case of the refresh_token, since it expires in 3 to 6 months, as in 
> your example, it doesn't cost much to try the token and get an invalid_grant 
> error in response forcing the client to re-authorize the grant.
> 
> Still, I think the OAuth specification might be improved with some clarifying 
> text (in section 1.4?).
> 
> Phil
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2011-02-03, at 4:19 PM, matake@gmail wrote:
> 
>> Mixi, one of the biggest Japanese social network service, supports OAuth2 
>> with refresh_token.
>> The lifetime of refresh_token is 6 hours ~ 3 months depends on user's 
>> decision on authorization.
>> 
>> In that case, how can Mixi tell the lifetime of refresh_token?
>> Currently they just documented it in their API document.
>> 
>> On 2011/02/04, at 5:43, William Mills wrote:
>> 
>>> The general use case for refresh tokens is that they don't have a lifetime, 
>>> although they can be invalidated by various things.
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>>>> Of Phil Hunt
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:27 PM
>>>> To: OAuth WG
>>>> Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Refresh Token and Expires_in
>>>> 
>>>> In 5.1 (draft 12), if a refresh_token is returned with an access_token,
>>>> what does expires_in refer to? Strict reading of the spec says it
>>>> refers to the access_token, but isn't lifetime of the refresh token as
>>>> important?  Should there be a similar "refresh_expires_in"?
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies if this was discussed before.
>>>> 
>>>> Phil
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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