Got it. End-user authentication via USIM is indeed secure (and convenient).

regards,
Torsten.



Igor Faynberg <[email protected]> schrieb:

As far the authentication goes, what I had in mind was that the network 
provider could authenticate the end-user. Alternatively, an application 
(not necessarily the USIM) on the smart card could hold the secret and 
perform all cryptographic operations (what Thomas calls crypto-store). 
In either case, only the provider and the card would share the secret.

Igor

Torsten Lodderstedt wrote:
> in my opinion, the problem with client authentication is more the 
> secure distribution of the secret than the storage. How should a USIM 
> help here?
>
> regards,
> Torsten.
>
>
>
> Thomas Hardjono <[email protected]> schrieb:
>
> Thanks Igor,
>
> If you bring smartcards into the picture, then it's a different
> ballgame :)
>
> If mobile phones are assumed to have smartcards (which is increasingly
> true today via USIMs), then OAUTH can assume that native apps (running
> on the phones) may have access to crypto-store. In this case the text
> in Section 9 of draft-16 would needs changes/clarifications.
>
> /thomas/
>
>
> __________
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Igor Faynberg [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:31 PM
> > To: Thomas Hardjono
> > Cc: Torsten Lodderstedt; OAuth WG
> > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-16
> > 
> > Actually, for the devices that use smart cards (mobile devices, in
> > particular), this assumption is quite appropriate.>
>
> > Igor
> > 
> > Thomas Hardjono wrote:
> > >> ....
> > > ...
> > >
> > > However, there is indeed the assumption in Kerberos/RFC4120 (and
> in
> > the original Needham-Schroeder protocol) that the "client" can keep
> > secrets.
> > >
> > > /thomas/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>_____________________________________________

>
> > >
> > >
> 
>

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