Thanks for having these conversations, Justin.  It will be interesting to see 
how they go.

As a co-editor, given that I was surprised that these numerous breaking changes 
were checked in without me or the other editors being given a chance to review 
them first, or for adequate discussion of them to occur by the working group, I 
would request that the default action for any of the changes made for which 
there isn't obvious consensus to keep be to back those breaking changes out 
before the submission deadline in two weeks.  Then we can start clean and only 
add changes once it's clear that doing so improves consensus.  (Obviously if a 
change appears to have been clearly accepted by the working group, there's no 
reason to remove it.)

                                Thanks,
                                -- Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Justin Richer
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Recent changes to Registration

As many of you saw, last week I published a draft of the OAuth Dynamic Client 
Registration spec [1] that made some fairly serious changes to how the protocol 
works. It was my intent to distill many threads of conversation here on the 
list into a full, workable protocol with a concrete document that we could 
discuss. I believe that what I published did that, but I certainly don't think 
that all of our work and discussion is done. It wasn't my intent to surprise 
people with the draft (apparently I really did!), nor was it my intent to 
simply dictate where the spec was going without any input from the working 
group.

So to move the discussion forward in a very deliberate fashion, I'm going to be 
starting a number of new threads for discussion on particular changes and 
components to this spec so that we can discuss things and decide as a working 
group what the best courses of action are. I'll lay out what the issues are, 
what -05 says today, what the options are as I see them, and we I think can go 
from there. The topics will be:

  - JSON Encoding
  - Endpoint Definition (& operation parameter)
  - HAL _links structure and client self-URL
  - RESTful client lifecycle management
  - Client secret rotation

If you want to talk about the overall design and philosophy of the Registration 
document, just reply to this email.

Of course, all of these interrelate in various ways, and everything must be 
taken in the overall context, but I'm hoping that by splitting things up this 
way we can focus the conversations better. I welcome all constructive 
discussion, debate, and input. As an editor, I am particularly grateful for 
anyone who wants to provide actual text for inclusion in the document itself, 
and any pointers to implemented code for any of this.

The deadline for IETF86 is two weeks from now, and I want to have a version -06 
or greater that incorporates all of the comments from these threads by then.

  -- Justin


[1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-05
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