And I was suggesting that OAuth token exchange align with the WS-Trust
definitions or maybe even define totally new terms. But not use the same
terms to mean different things.


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Anthony Nadalin <tony...@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>  The explanation of on-behalf-Of and ActAs are correct in the document as
> defined by WS-Trust, this may not be your desire or understanding but that
> is how WS-Trust implementations should work
>
>
>
> *From:* OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian
> Campbell
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:44 AM
> *To:* Vladimir Dzhuvinov
> *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-jones-oauth-token-exchange-00
>
>
>
> FWIW, I am very interested in the general concept of a lightweight or
> OAuth based token exchange mechanism. However, despite some distaste for
> the protocol, our existing WS-Trust functionality has proven to be "good
> enough" for most use-cases, which seems to prevent work on token exchange
> from getting any real priority.
>
> I have a few thoughts on
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-oauth-token-exchange-00 which I've
> been meaning to write down but haven't yet, so this seems like as good a
> time as any.
>
> I would really like to see a simpler request model that doesn't require
> the request to be JWT encoded.
>
> The draft mentions the potential confusion around On-Behalf-Of vs.
> Impersonation Semantics. And it is confusing (to me anyway). In fact, the
> use of Act-As and On-Behalf-Of seem to be reversed from how they are
> defined in WS-Trust
> <http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/ws-trust/v1.4/ws-trust.html> (this MS
> FAQ <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee748487.aspx> has less
> confusing wording). They should probably be aligned with that prior work to
> avoid further confusion. Or maybe making a clean break and introducing new
> terms would be better.
>
> I don't think the security_token_request grant type value is strictly
> legal per RFC 6749. The ABNF at
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#appendix-A.10 would allow it but
> according to http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-4.5 extension
> grants need an absolute URI as the grant type value (there's no grant type
> registry so the URI is the only means of preventing collision).
>
>
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>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Vladimir Dzhuvinov <
> vladi...@connect2id.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone implemented the OAuth 2.0 Token exchange draft, in particular
> the on-behalf-of semantics? We've got a use case for that and I'm
> curious if someone has used it in practice.
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-oauth-token-exchange-00
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vladimir
> --
> Vladimir Dzhuvinov <vladi...@connect2id.com>
> Connect2id Ltd.
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