On Oct 7, 2014, at 10:57 AM, John Bradley <[email protected]> wrote:
> The main reason for signing inside the encryption, tends to be legal in that 
> a signature over something you can't see is not considered enforceable most 
> places.
> So if you are signing for non repudiation then inside the encryption is 
> typically required.

The document currently warns that if the signature is not encrypted, it would 
be possible to encrypt the message, sign it, and then an MiTM could strip the 
signature.   This seems to contradict what you are saying here.   Not being an 
expert, I am probably missing something, but what you actually recommend should 
be consistent; if in fact in the scenario you are talking about the stripping 
of the signature wouldn't buy the attacker anything, you should say so.

To be clear, what I am asking for is just that the document make sense to 
someone who doesn't know all the properties of all the crypto algorithms.   
Based on what I've heard so far, I'm not suggesting that you need to add any 
new requirements.   And I'm just asking, so if I'm really talking through my 
hat, you are free to just ignore me! :)

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