:-)

Phil

> On Dec 6, 2014, at 08:37, Stephen Farrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Phil,
> 
> Good points that need discussing but I'd suggest we give the new
> list a few days to allow folks to subscribe and then have that
> discussion.
> 
> Thanks,
> S.
> 
>> On 06/12/14 16:08, Phil Hunt wrote:
>> On the surface (as currently presented) this work appears to duplicate the 
>> POP work going on in OAuth.  The key difference is that this work is focused 
>> on using ALPN to bind tokens to the TLS channel. From a use case perspective 
>> it is very close to OAuth POP, and a specific use case of the current OAuth 
>> POP (proof of possession) architecture.
>> 
>> I note that the OAuth WG had originally dropped TLS binding in part because 
>> TLS was not always end-to-end in cases where load-balancers where used. The 
>> identified use-cases required end-to-end proof of possession (e.g. to 
>> prevent token re-use and relaying).
>> 
>> Never-the-less, events and approaches change and this is worth discussing 
>> (again).  
>> 
>> I think the architectural/protocol issues around the use of load balancers 
>> have to be discussed as the current ALPN proposal may be unbearable for 
>> many. 
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> @independentid
>> www.independentid.com
>> [email protected]
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Stephen Farrell <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hiya,
>>> 
>>> Following up on the presentation at IETF-91 on this topic, [1]
>>> we've created a new list [2] for moving that along. The list
>>> description is:
>>> 
>>> "This list is for discussion of proposals for doing better than bearer
>>> tokens (e.g. HTTP cookies, OAuth tokens etc.) for web applications.
>>> The specific goal is chartering a WG focused on preventing security
>>> token export and replay attacks."
>>> 
>>> If you're interested please join in.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Vinod and Andrei for agreeing to admin the list.
>>> 
>>> We'll kick off discussion in a few days when folks have had
>>> a chance to subscribe.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> S.
>>> 
>>> PS: Please don't reply-all to this, join the new list, wait
>>> a few days and then say what you need to say:-)
>>> 
>>> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/agenda/91/slides/slides-91-uta-2.pdf
>>> [2] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/unbearable
>>> 
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