I agree, we should analyse the threat. From my first impression it feels like injection with some specialties.

@Denis:
So far, I'm struggeling to understand how this attack is performed from a practical perspective. Every token/assertion issued to the uncle is bound to its identity. So it the niece wants to "upgrade" her age, she would need to somehow mix identity data for two identities (her's and her uncle's identity) into a single token, which needs to be signed by the respective AS. How is this gone work?

kind regards,
Torsten.

Am 11.11.2016 um 16:27 schrieb Nat Sakimura:
Thanks Denis for pointing it out. It may be desirable to add ABC attack to the list of threats. Torsten et al. are updating Threat Model and Security Considerations so it could potentially be included in there.

Some remarks:

  * I suppose the assumption is that the Bob does not share his
    credentials with Alice: Otherwise, sharing the credential would
    achieve something worse.
  * In addition, it assumes that Bob does not give his device to
    Alice: Otherwise, something similar to ABC attack can be achieved
    by Bob giving Alice his Laptop or Phone, and I guess this happens
    more often than shipping Bob's access token to Alice.
  * With these assumptions:
      o It looks like a variation of token injection attack that we
        have been talking about for many years.
      o If we token bind the refresh and access tokens, the ABC attack
        as described does not work.
      o For something like Age verification, recognizing such attacks,
        it probably is a bad practice to rely on refresh/access token.
        The service should do more active check, e.g., through OpenID
        Connect.

Best,

Nat

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 2:54 AM Denis <denis.i...@free.fr <mailto:denis.i...@free.fr>> wrote:

    Section 5 of "draft-ietf-oauth-pop-architecture-08.txt" identifies
    requirements.
    One of them (which, BTW, should be moved into Section 4 - Threats)
    is :

    Collusion:

    Resource servers that collude ...

    This threat addresses the case of "/collusion between servers"/
    while the case of "/collusion between clients"/
    has not been considered. When access tokens are being used,
    /collusion between clients /is of primary importance.

    Let us consider the following "Alice and Bob Collusion attack"
    (ABC attack).

    An uncle (Bob) is willing to collaborate with his young niece
    (Alice) who is less than 18 during a short period of time.
    The niece is opening her own session and creates an account on a
    server. The uncle does not hand over his own session to her niece
    at any point of time.

    Let us assume that some crypto expert has written two specific
    pieces of software. One has been installed on the laptop
    of the uncle and another one on the laptop of the niece. The two
    laptops are able to communicate using a network (e.g. a WAN or a LAN).

    The niece creates an account on a resource server. Later on, the
    resource server asks her (or him ?) to demonstrate that she (or
    his ?)
    is more than 18. She forwards the information received from the
    resource server to her uncle using the network. The uncle receives
    that information and connects to an Authorization Server. The
    uncle requests an access token containing information demonstrating
    that he is older than 18 and passed it back to his niece. The
    niece then presents it to the resource server. The access token is
    accepted.

    Since the niece has been able to demonstrate once that she is more
    than 18, the resource server will remember this attribute
    and in the future she will not need to demonstrate it again. She
    will keep the advantages related to this attribute associated
    with her account on that resource server until she does not need
    it anymore, i.e. when she will really be over 18.

        Whatever kind of cryptographic is being used, when two users
        collaborate, a software-only solution will be
        unable to prevent the transfer of an attribute of a user that
        possess it to another user that does not possess it .

    The use of a secure element simply protecting the confidentiality
    and the integrity of some secret key or private key will be
    ineffective
    to counter the Alice and Bob collusion attack. Additional
    properties will be required for the secure element.

    RFC 6819 (OAuth 2.0 Threat Model and Security Considerations)
    issued in January 2013 has omitted to take into consideration
    the Alice and Bob Collusion attack.

    Section 2.3 of the ABC4Trust project about key-binding in
    Deliverable D2.2 available at:
    https://abc4trust.eu/download/Deliverable_D2.2.pdf states on page 17 :

    To prevent “credential pooling”, i.e., multiple Users sharing
    their credentials, credentials can optionally be bound to a secret
    key,
    i.e. a cryptographically strong random value that is assumed to be
    known only to a particular user. The credential specification
    specifies whether the credentials issued according to this
    specification are to employ key binding or not.

    A presentation token derived from such a key-bound credential
    always contains an implicit proof of knowledge of the underlying
    secret key,
    so that the Verifier can be sure that the rightful owner of the
    credential was involved in the creation of the presentation token.
    As an extra protection layer, the credentials can also be bound to
    a trusted physical device, such as a smart card, by keeping
    the secret key in a protected area of the device. That is, the key
    cannot be extracted from the device, but the device does participate
    in the presentation token generation to include an implicit proof
    of knowledge of this key in the token. Thus, for credentials that
    are key-bound
    to a physical device it is impossible to create a presentation
    token without the device.

    The rightful owner of the credential was indeed involved in
    real-time in the creation of the presentation token but in the
    collaboration scenario,
    the key binding mechanism is not sufficient to counter that
    specific attack. ABC4Trust, Idemix (IBM) and U-Prove
    (Microsoft)are currently
    not resistant to the "ABC attack".

    The IRMA card project (https://www.irmacard.org/) based on the use
    of a smart card and of the Idemix scheme claims to provide security
    and privacy simultaneously. However, this project will not be
    resistant either to the ABC attack.

    *draft-ietf-oauth-pop-architecture-08 should take into
    consideration the ABC attack.*

    The threat related to the ABC attack should be identified in the
    security considerations section
    and the core of the document should attempt to identify one or
    more ways to counter it.

    The scope of draft-ietf-oauth-token-exchange-06 is limited to the
    definition of a basic request and response protocol for
    an STS-style token exchange utilizing OAuth 2.0. Section 6
    (Security Considerations) has omitted to take into consideration
    the ABC attack and therefore the currently described "basic
    request and response protocol" will allow Bob to obtain an access
    token and to pass it successfully to Alice so that she can use it.

    *draft-ietf-oauth-token-exchange-06 **should take into
    consideration the ABC attack.*

    The threat related to the ABC attack should be identified in the
    security considerations section
    and the core of the document should attempt to identify one or
    more ways to counter it.

    Denis

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