It is a trade off between compatibility with Connect and possible configuration 
errors.

In reality it may not be compatible with Connect if the client is sending some 
parameters outside the object without including them in the object as a Connect 
client might.    You would potentially wind up dropping state or nonce without 
an error.  

I asked Mike and he was leaning to making it a error to send them as query 
parameters as that would be a clean change.

I think the choice is a bit of a grey area.

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So I think we need to make the must ignore clearer for the additional 
paramaters on the authorization endpoint.  

On Mar 30, 2017 17:33, "Nat Sakimura" <[email protected]> wrote:
Not right now. 
As of this writing, a client can still send duplicate parameters in the query 
but they get ignored by the servers honoring OAuth JAR. So, it is backwards 
compatible with OpenID Connect in that sense (OpenID Connect sends duplicate 
manatory RFC6749 parameters as the query parameters as well just to be 
compliant to RFC6749). Conversely, servers that do not support OAuth JAR will 
ignore request_uri etc. 
On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Mike Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
Is there a clear statement somewhere along the lines of “parameters (other than 
“request” or “request_uri”) are only allowed to be in the signed object if a 
signed object is used”?  That’s the kind of thing I was looking for and didn’t 
find. 
  
                                                       -- Mike 
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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:44 PM
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Cc: Nat Sakimura <[email protected]>; IETF oauth WG <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-13.txt 
  
The intent of the change is to only allow the paramaters to be in the signed 
object if a signed object is used.   
  
This requires State, nonce etc to be in the JWT.  Only one place to check will 
hopefully reduce implimentation errors.   
  
This also allows us to remove the caching text as we now have one JWT per 
request, so caching won't happen.    
  
John B.   
  
  
  
On Mar 30, 2017 4:36 PM, "Mike Jones" <[email protected]> wrote: 
I *believe* the intent is that *all* parameters must be in the request object, 
but the spec doesn’t actually say that, as far as I can tell.  Or maybe the 
intent is that parameters must not be duplicated between the query parameters 
and the request object. 
  
One or the other of these statements should be explicitly included in the 
specification.  Of course, I could have missed the statement I’m asking for in 
my review, in which case please let me know what I missed. 
  
                                                       Thanks, 
                                                      -- Mike 
  
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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:00 PM
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Subject: [OAUTH-WG] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-13.txt 
  
Based on feeback from the IESG we have removed some of the optionality in the 
draft. 
  
It is a shorter read than draft 12.   
  
John B. 
  
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Subject: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-13.txt 
  
  
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 
This draft is a work item of the Web Authorization Protocol of the IETF. 
  
        Title           : The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework: JWT Secured 
Authorization Request (JAR) 
        Authors         : Nat Sakimura 
                          John Bradley 
           Filename        : draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-13.txt 
           Pages           : 27 
           Date            : 2017-03-30 
  
Abstract: 
   The authorization request in OAuth 2.0 described in RFC 6749 utilizes 
   query parameter serialization, which means that Authorization Request 
   parameters are encoded in the URI of the request and sent through 
  user agents such as web browsers.  While it is easy to implement, it 
   means that (a) the communication through the user agents are not 
   integrity protected and thus the parameters can be tainted, and (b) 
   the source of the communication is not authenticated.  Because of 
   these weaknesses, several attacks to the protocol have now been put 
   forward. 
  
   This document introduces the ability to send request parameters in a 
   JSON Web Token (JWT) instead, which allows the request to be signed 
   with JSON Web Signature (JWS) and/or encrypted with JSON Web 
   Encryption (JWE) so that the integrity, source authentication and 
   confidentiality property of the Authorization Request is attained. 
   The request can be sent by value or by reference. 
  
  
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq/ 
  
There are also htmlized versions available at: 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-13 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-13 
  
A diff from the previous version is available at: 
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-13 
  
  
Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission 
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 
  
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: 
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ 
  
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