Forgive me if this question is late or poor context, but wouldn’t OIDC be a 
better replacement for ROPC since it’s essentially a authentication flow?

What use case for ROPC mandates OAuth2 over OIDC?

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Jim Manico
@Manicode

> On May 11, 2020, at 11:00 PM, Francis Pouatcha 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am against OAuth 2.1 discarding the use of ROPC (Resource Owner Password 
> Credentials) with the following reasoning:
> 
> Auth Code Grant:
> There are  many use cases on the market where redirection based flows do not 
> work. As  we see in the "OAuth 2.1 - require PKCE?" thread, the complexity of 
> user agents on non controllable client devices still make user agent 
> redirection a challenge. 
> 
> Client Credentials Grant:
> Requires the registration of an oAuth client.
> - Citing the iot device use cases Beena which do not have a comfortable way 
> to have iot devices register with AS.
> - This is a registration flow for the oAuth client role  and for the RO 
> (Resource Owner). Remember resource owner credentials might be sourced from 
> system external to the AS  like company's LDAP. oAuth Client Credentials are 
> generally managed by the AS.
> For these reasons, we shall not use Client Credential Grant to manage RO 
> authorization.
> 
> ROPC:
> Having an oAuth Client proxy the auth request of the RO to the AS only 
> presents a security risk if the oAuth Client is a third party application. 
> Therefore, the decision on whether to accept ROPC for a specified client 
> shall be left to the AS. Discarding this use case will take a lot of business 
> from oAuth servers back to the old market.
> 
> Beside this, I mentioned in my previous post that there are use cases in the 
> market where permanent passwords are replaced with one time passwords.
> 
> A lot of work is also being done in the direction of having the RO send 
> signed proof of ownership to the AS through the ROPC  flow using the password 
> field.
> 
> Therefore, I am ok with raising the attention of  implementers the same way 
> we are doing with PKCE,  mentioning that ROPC  must only be used if  AS / 
> oAuth Client can guarantee security of the RO credentials exposed to the 
> oAuth Client. 
> 
> /Francis
> -- 
> Francis Pouatcha
> Co-Founder and Technical Lead at adorys
> https://adorsys-platform.de/solutions/
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