I think it would be prudent to potentially ask *why?* What problem is
necessary to be solved by discussing/standardizing these particular
features? There could be, but without understanding, knowing how best to
tackle it is a challenging conversation without the right context.

Warren Parad

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 10:15 PM Kevat Shah <[email protected]> wrote:

> How would that work? Would we need to work with W3C to ensure conformity
> of standards?
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 4:11 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Although the IETF has been involved in Best Commercial Practices (BCP)
>> (see https://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp-index.txt )  which I think was the
>> subject of Kevat’s original email.
>>
>>
>>
>> So perhaps this is a subject matter that could co-exist in both the IETF
>> and W3C?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* OAuth <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Tim Cappalli
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 9, 2021 4:06 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Specifications for Identity Providers
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think there is explicit ownership, but generally password and
>> magic link type "stuff" happens in W3C.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are existing work efforts around standardizing password reset
>> endpoint discovery, password complexity schemas, etc.
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Kevat Shah <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 9, 2021 16:03
>> *To:* Tim Cappalli <[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Specifications for Identity Providers
>>
>>
>>
>> You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn why this is
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>>
>> That's a good point. Is it fair to assume that W3C owns the standards for
>> most (if not all) standards related to Identity Providers? Or does it make
>> sense for IETF to start setting these standards in cases where W3C
>> standards don't exist?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Kevat
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 2:56 PM Tim Cappalli <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I believe this topic would be more W3C scope, not IETF.
>>
>>
>>
>> tim
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* OAuth <[email protected]> on behalf of Kevat Shah <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 8, 2021 16:37
>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [OAUTH-WG] Specifications for Identity Providers
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> I propose that we expand upon specific functionality provided by Identity
>> Providers (IdPs) and tasks handled by them.
>>
>>
>>
>> To start with, there should be clear specifications for various
>> functionalities that IdPs provide such as:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Email verification on registration
>>
>> - Specifications regarding "forgot password" functionality
>>
>> - Specifications regarding "resest password" functionality for users that
>> are logged in
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> These specifications only pertain to Identity Providers, and allow an
>> industry-wide set of rules that each Identity Provider must follow. The
>> purpose of doing so would be to standardize various frequently used and
>> implemented flows that are secure and widely reusable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Some problems that would be addressed by these specifications would be:
>>
>>
>>
>> - How to securely implement functionality where a user is sent a link to
>> verify their email address
>>
>>
>>
>> - How to securely implement functionality where a user is sent a
>> verification code to verify their email address
>>
>>
>>
>> - How to securely implement functionality where a user is sent a link to
>> reset their password
>>
>>
>>
>> - How to securely implement functionality where a user is sent a
>> verification code to reset their password
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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