Am 13.11.24 um 02:04 schrieb Watson Ladd:

I'd appreciate if others would weigh in, particularly if they haven't followed this debate before.

Happy to -  as a co-author of the draft, I think that the current text addresses this risk sufficiently. Besides that, I'd second what Brian said.

-Daniel





On Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 3:59 PM Brian Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:

    Consistently saying something isn't the same as gathering
    consensus about what, if any, changes to make as a result of
    saying it. The IETF has a consensus-based process for standards
    development and sometimes one individual's viewpoint falls outside
    consensus. Repeatedly voicing the viewpoint doesn't change that.

    I suggest the WG proceed with submitting the draft to the IESG for
    publication while noting in the Shepherd Write-Up that Watson has
    repeatedly raised a concern about privacy implications and,
    despite changes being made as a result, has raised the comment
    again. I believe it's completely reasonable at this point to
    declare the comment as "in the rough" with respect to the
    consensus of the WG.


    On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 9:45 AM Watson Ladd
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        The privacy issues I have consistently raised have not been
        addressed
        through actionable text.

        Implementers are not receiving guidance with the current
        version. The
        actual risks are buried below a bunch of words talking around the
        issue.

        I'll be very clear: if a user uses this technology to pass an age
        verification filter, they will end up exposing their complete
        identity
        without knowing it. This is an unacceptable risk, and no one
        disagrees
        the technology poses it. Implementers will often not have the
        skills
        or knowledge to identify this concern independently, and need
        actionable guidance on how to mitigate it. We provide far more
        actionable guidance on storage of credentials.

        On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:00 AM Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
        <[email protected]> wrote:
        >
        > All,
        >
        > This is a short second WG Last Call for the SD-JWT document
        after the recent update based on the feedback provided during
        the first WGLC
        >
        
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-oauth-selective-disclosure-jwt-13.txt
        >
        > Please, review this document and reply on the mailing list
        if you have any comments or concerns, by Oct 25th.
        >
        > Regards,
        >   Rifaat & Hannes
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