As I said during the meeting, I am supportive of doing this work but do
hope the authors have appetite for what they might be signing up
for. Aaron's review points to some of the work needed. The
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-deprecate-none-rsa15/ work
should almost certainly be referred to. I believe the current text around
compression in JWE is a bit overreaching and lacking in subtlety about when
it's reasonable to use. I'm not terribly thrilled about the way
explicit typing has worked in practice but I'm admittedly not sure how it
could be improved at this point. I'm sure there's more once the box is
opened.

It seems the draft is largely a rehash of RFC8725 with some additions and
likely other updates. It should probably explicitly obsolete RFC8725 and
indicate that it updates BCP 225 by replacing 8725. A more formal section
that describes the changes from RFC8725 would also be nice and is
AFAIK common practice in such a document. Similarly it'd be good etiquette
to, in the acknowledgements, distinguish between contributors to the
original document and those that have contributed to the updates. I know
from some github interactions, for one example, that ⁨Filip Skokan⁩ has
helped guide some of the updated text but he's not mentioned at present.

As also somewhat gratuitously mentioned at the meeting, a few years back I
did a talk a few times on JWT vulnerabilities and tried to take a balanced
look at many of the criticisms. I don't think there's anything novel or
unknown in it, but I think it might provide some useful perspective. If
anyone is interested in seeing that, or just helping drive the meager view
count up, a recording of one instance of the talk is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKRGS6cQWw

On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 11:03 AM Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.i...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> All,
>
> This is a call for adoption for the *RFC8725bis* draft that was discussed
> during the last IETF meeting in Madrid:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sheffer-oauth-rfc8725bis/
>
> Remember that adoption does not mean a document is finished, only that it
> is an acceptable starting point.
>
> Please, reply on the mailing list and let us know if you are in favor or
> against adopting this draft as WG document, by August 22nd.
>
> Regards,
>  Rifaat & Hannes
>
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