----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Humphreys (K)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: RE: [c-kap] Tuesday Night Tours 03/07/01 The problem is that I get (new) non members in June and July. In order to teach them the rules of the road and group riding we need to ride at their pace. First impressions are important. Stick with them and be as helpful as possible on their first ride (providing they are making a effort to learn) and they will come back and latter join OBC. Leave them in your wake struggling to try and catch up all night and you have lost a future OBC member. We do commit to a progressive approach - starting slow in April and building up to longer and faster rides as the season progresses. The problem is that many new cyclist think June or July is the start of the cycling season. If you want to win them over to becoming members, they need to start at their speed and have a group of at least six to practice group riding. I think the best idea is to let the riders who have been riding since April that do not want to help with non members or new members to ride off the front of the pack as long as they know their on their own. They can also wait down the road if not sure of directions. However if we have a large turnout it may be wise to settle this prior to starting. We all enjoy cycling, but on Tuesday night I get my enjoyment from the grateful new. It makes my day when several new members make it a point of thanking me for my effort. However, after all is said even I have my good days and the odd bad one when I get a little carried away. and go to far or forget that I'm riding to fast and find myself alone. Cheers, James PS See I'm not perfect I used C-KAP's mailing page when I should have used OBC's > Perhaps the answer is to get a Tuesday group that will commit to a > progressive approach - starting with shorter, slower rides in May and > building up to longer, faster rides as the season progresses. Too many > cyclists like to cherry pick when it comes to going out riding - as a > result, they never get fit ! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Wilson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:25 PM > > To: c-kap mailing information page > > Subject: [c-kap] Tuesday Night Tours 03/07/01 > > > > Eight cyclist decided to chance that it would not rain although showers > > were > > forecast and it was somewhat cool and overcast for the 3rd of July. > > > > Yes "Sir James" managed to arrange a tour that was 48 km's long that > > got all riders back to Billings Bridge before dark and hopefully home > > before > > it started to rain. > > > > We did the Jockvale, Manotick route which was cut a little short by going > > South on Greenbank road rather than Cedarview. > > > > With the help of a cyclist that lived in the area we managed to avoid > > construction on a section of Jockvale Road. > > > > It has become very apparent over the years that regular Tuesday night > > cyclist want to ride a little faster after RLT. However, James gets many > > new > > riders, and non members at this time. It's very hard trying to teach group > > riding to new members when they are using all their effort to keep up with > > the pack. This leaves James with two choices, One is to hold the pace down > > to a acceptable level and any rider who does not want to maintain that > > pace > > and ends up ahead of the tour leaders group is on their own. Which will > > allow James to instruct the remaining riders who require instructions, > > along > > with cyclist for whatever reason who wish to ride at the slower pace. > > > > The other Choice is to arrange a faster group with their own tour leader > > prior to the ride if numbers warrant it. > > > > I will be putting both ideas into effect staring with next Tuesdays ride. > > The main reason for this change is that the instruction of new riders seem > > to suffer as regular riders get faster. In this way those who wish to have > > a > > fast ride on Tuesday night will not be held up and James can concentrate > > on > > teaching new riders group riding skills rather than spending most of his > > time trying to keep the pack to-together or locate missing riders. > > > > James will try to please all (a very hard thing to do) but it will be > > understood that James will not be responsible for the fast group if > > formed, or any riders that ride ahead of the pack. > > > > Your comments are welcome, > > PS "Sir James" would welcome any experienced cyclist who would be willing > > to > > act as a tour leader for the faster group. "Sir James would also like to > > take the time to thank all the cyclist who in the past have gone out of > > their way to help a new rider return home safe. in some cases allowing > > James > > to carry on as tour leader. > > Bless them all, the young, new, old, short, and tall their are only great > > cyclist. 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