Avery,

I couldn't agree more that young children need to be supervised. For us  parents,  I
was wondering at what developmental stages would you introduce the various aspects of
vehicular cycling? As you say, vehicular road cycling starts the day they start to
ride.

Mom on a Bike

Avery Burdett wrote:

>
>
> The children I refer to are
> ones that need adult supervision no matter where they ride. Children (under
> supervision of course) should be introduced to vehicular road cycling from the
> day they start to ride.
>
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent:        Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:19 PM
> >> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Cc:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject:     Re: [obc] Lowell Green on CFRA
> >>
> >> There are many competent cyclist out there who may or may not belong to
> >> the many
> >> great cycling clubs and organizations this whole region has to offer.
> >>
> >> In saying that I noticed out of between 15 to 20 child cylist I saw riding
> >> home on
> >> their bikes, only one rode appropriately. The others rode on the sidewalk,
> >> did not
> >> look, turned left from the right side of the road, rode up the wrong side
> >> of the
> >> street. There are apporximately 100,000 school age child cyclist in this
> >> city. That
> >> would mean they outnumber OBC riders 100:1.
> >>
> >> Mom on a Bike
> >>
> >> Paul Lindsay wrote:
> >>
> >> > >Re: [obc] Lowell Green on CFRAThing is, a lot of cyclists >are< jerks.
> >> How
> >> > >many cyclists out there are actually
> >> > >following the rules of the road and behaving decently?  Not many.
> >> We're used
> >> > >to riding with our OBC friends and on club rides and loops in the Gats
> >> > >when for
> >> > >the most part most cyclists are either incompetant commuters or bike
> >> path and
> >> > >sidewalk noodlers that are two eggs short of a dozen.
> >> >   Just a day or two ago I wrote an e-mail to one of the editors of the
> >> > car
> >> > magazine "Wheels" for tarring all cyclists with scorn and innuendo
> >> > similar to
> >> > the reported Lowell Green incident.  This guy referred to all riders as
> >> > "suicyclists" and was angry that we all "bitch and complain about car
> >> > drivers"
> >> > but don't follow the rules of the road ourselves. Such media people are
> >> > dangerous.
> >> >   On the other hand, I think Michael's comments sound a bit 'elitist'.
> >> I
> >> > think
> >> > there are many commuters, bike path riders, and general tourist
> >> cyclists,
> >> > equally competent and law-abiding as those of the OBC.  And there are
> >> > numerous
> >> > times I have seen club members running lights and stop signs (somtimes
> >> > wearing
> >> > their OBC jersey).
> >> > .... Paul L.
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> Avery Burdett
> Ottawa, Ontario
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