I agree with Les on this. Set it up like a golf handicap. You need to have
10 games to have an official handicap in golf, so 10 rides would seem
appropriate. Of course you've all heard of sandbaggers?
Tim Aubin.
>From: "Les Humphreys (K)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, obc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [obc] results, handicapping?
>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 16:56:12 -0400
>
> While the notion of age handicapping may be appropriate to level the
>playing field for older competitors, it will always favour riders who have
>always been fast, no matter what their age.
> An alternative approach would be to compute a handicap based on a
>rider's ability compared with a known standard ('scratch time'), such as
>the
>current club champion, and allocate a handicap based on the difference
>between a riders average time and the scratch time.
> Under the latter approach, the person with the best improvement
>would be the winner of the handicap competition. This method discriminates
>against nobody except possibly those who do not have enough performances on
>record to yield a reliable average. (Such individuals would be accorded
>zero
>handicap).
> 'Average' may not necessarily be the best measure - median could
>also be used, or some combination.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:18 PM
> > To: obc
> > Subject: [obc] results, handicapping?
> >
> > Hi all:
> >
> > Well, I finally got my laptop hooked back up to my home network after
> > arriving home - so the tt results from Aug 9 (found in my huge stash of
> > snail mail), Aug 30 and Sep 6 are now posted and accessible from the
> > obcweb. I actually put a few different displays of yesterdays results up
> > there. Please comment and discuss. It's our club!
> >
> > Some Backgound on the handicapping disussions (or not...):
> >
> > Last year when the age-handicapping event was introduced, I immediately
> > expressed my view to Avery that the method of handicapping would tend to
> > move women downwards in the overall open rankings since it handicapped
> > the men and women towards different means (Men at their prime are faster
> > than women (of the same training/fitness level) at their prime)).
> > Discussion was not possible. I expressed the view again this year to a
> > few more of the powers that be and the reactions ranged from unpleasant
> > to disinterest. I was basically told to not show the men's and women's
> > rankings on the same page. (I had neither the time to break down the
> > resistance nor the time (or desire) to comply with the programming
> > request).
> >
> > The best female time of 21:06 by Meshy Holt (a professional rider from
> > New Zealand), is 2:23 slower than Ray Duggan's 18:43 (which is said to
> > not even be the fastest men's time!). A simple solution would be to
> > remove 143 seconds from all of the women's times. This doesn't in any
> > way upset the rankings within the genders - it just draws the women into
> > the event as full participants with the same opportunity as men to hit
> > any position (from top to bottom) in the overall rankings. After all it
> > is a handicap event in the OPEN time trial series. To see the results of
> > this method, go to
> >
>http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Racing/TimeTrials/Results/tt/2001/sep06agh.h
> > tml
> > .
> >
> > I don't think that the current age-handicapping scheme was intended to
> > disadvantage women or to "keep women in their place" - but it does, and
> > hence I have provided a constructive suggestion.
> >
> > Do others have any views on this? It's our club! Please discuss. In my
> > view it's all a matter of healthy fun with motivation and competition
> > for all. (Actually I am really partial towards completely personal
> > handicapping methods - and that should be up for discussion too!).
> >
> > Celia
> >
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