Thanks Peter,

Rosmarie indicated this as well, the challenge riders kind of write their own
rules.

My concerns for SAG support were for the two unsupported routes. It sounds
like these routes will have significantly less riders than the "classic". Just
thought it
would be ok to have volunteers doing the SAG role for the club, the OBC can limit
the number, one or two per route would pretty much cover it.

Hopefully I'll have my decent bikes back in Canada by the end of the month, I'm
getting tired of feeling like I'm towing an anchor with old blue. Been breaking
rear
spokes on every Sunday ride, the wheel is old and fragile, or might be I'm just
putting out to much power, yea that's it,,,, too much power.......

Just got my first "spokesperson" in the mail, nice write-ups, in Dallas the club
paper was the "spokesman",  guess they are little behind the times....

Brian



Peter Tregunno wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> I think that you may be reading more into the responses. The HotterNHell
> is about an order of magnitude larger then Rideau Lakes, Ride for the
> Roses is bigger still!
>
> Where you see bureaucratic, I see friendly, orgainized riding - we're
> sharing the road with cars - and yes, the string of groups is _very_
> noticeable.
>
> You will also note that "personal" SAGs are frowned upon, since they
> tend to only add to the congestion problems (the Classic route is the
> main drag to and from some of the nicest cottages in Eastern Ontario).
>
> You will definitly have no problem finding a group to ride the Challenge
> route with (some of us don't count past 10 too well:) )
>
> On a different note - I've always noticed that American Century rides
> are lavish timed affairs (almost a race), or a massive fundraiser.
> Canadian century rides, to me, seem to be a chance to go out for a good
> long ride with a group. Anyone else see this?
>
> Cheers
> Peter T.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > My first impression is this tour sounds way more organized and
> > bureaucratic than I'm used to, what with group leaders, asking
> > permission to join a group, route marshals, limits of 12 per group etc.
> >
> > Most large tours and rallies I have done previously were mass event type
> > things with
> > police escorts and blocked intersections part of the way, one huge mass
> > of riders stringing out for miles. Very noticeable to the public, not
> > hidden from view, check us out we're having a bike rally here.  They
> > were usually very race like with the lead pack constantly pushing the
> > pace until there were a core of 20 or so left.
> >
> > The largest Texas rides like these are the Hotter N Hell 100 miler in
> > 100 degree heat, with 10,000 participants and Lance Armstrong's Ride for
> > the Roses with 13,000.
> >
> > As for no SAG on the unsupported routes, crashes and severe mechanicals
> > can be a problem, when you can't continue it sure is nice to know a SAG
> > will be coming along to pick you up. This SAG support often makes the
> > difference in having a good ride with some bad luck or having a scary
> > terrible day.
> >
> > I think there would be several riders friends or relatives who would
> > love to drive SAG for a couple of days, all they need is a van with some
> > bike racks. Tape a sign that says SAG on the side, give them a cell
> > phone add in a few spare bike parts, some common tools and there're all
> > set.
> >
> > Yes I still plan on doing the tour....
> > Can I join someone's group please....
> >
> > See you on the road,
> > Brian
> >
>
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