Sounds like they at least need to add a bit more paint and paint arrows
indicating that the lanes are one way only. Although, I do agree that one
wide lane is better than painting a bike lane.

To the uninitiated, it all looks good on paper. How about we try and get the
NCC road engineer folks to ride the damn thing! :-)

David Bilenkey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Humphreys (K) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: August 12, 2002 12:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OBC
> Subject: RE: [obc] Champlain Bridge - Oh dear!
>
>
> The problem is historical - before renovations were complete,
> cyclists in both directions were obliged to use the northbound
> sidewalk - I'm sure there are many that are still unware that a
> southbound bike lane even exists !
> If you are coming west along the north shore bikeway, you must
> pass under the bridge in order to reach the southbound bike lane
> - this access is not intuitively obvious to anyone who is used to
> exiting onto the lower Aylmer Road to gain access to the formarly
> bidirectional bike lane.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Datars Sally [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:14 PM
> To: 'OBC'
> Subject: FW: [obc] Champlain Bridge - Oh dear!
>
>
> I used the bridge last week in the morning and encountered 3
> other cyclists
> using the Northbound lane to go South.  Normally when I encounter a person
> on a bike riding toward me, I inform them in no uncertain terms where they
> belong.  But in this case, since there were 2 of them together and the
> bridge was newly opened, I thought there might be some stupid
> rule allowing
> 2 directions in one lane.  But such was not the case.
>
> I can't figure out why people are doing this, as there are wide lanes on
> both sides for cyclists.  Funny you witnessed the same thing Eric.  It's
> beyond my comprehension.  I don't think the white line is the reason for
> this but I agree with Eric that perhaps confusion for motorists might be
> avoided by removing the white line.  Or, what about painting a bicycle
> symbol in the lane and an arrow indicating one way.  Or overhead light
> indicators as used in the motorists lanes.  As for the crud
> collecting along
> the side, that will happen with or without bike lanes.
>
> Still and all, a huge improvement, IMHO.
>
>       Sally (OBC member)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wright, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [obc] Champlain Bridge - Oh dear!
>
>
>
> Insanity prevails.
> I drove the bridge last night.
> I ask why demark the bicycle/trash lane at all?
> I witnessed it promote poor behaviour from  both a bike rider and a car:
> -Bike traveling southbound on the northbound side.
> -Car using it as a right-turn lane as you exit the bridge northbound.
>
> To a standard citizen, a white line on the right suggests a paved shoulder
> (upon which traffic should not be travelling).
> Save the paint, why not just a WIDE right lane?

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