Agree 100%
Yet we still live with american and European standards,
Such as DIN, ASTM, DJI, ICAO, FAA, holywood, american idol,   etc etc etc

Even the Japanese still copying american standard for their industries

It’s the living struggle that keeps the world turning

A3K



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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:12 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

That's right!

Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US
cannot create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic
and technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil
field, tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology
and Korea has the best drama TV series..

Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.

I have an interesting article, please read it.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html

Elaine
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei <highwaysta...@gmail.com> wrote:
So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
to US & Europe...

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano <yuta.tizi...@gmail.com> wrote:
If I can summarize:

1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of
this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources
as SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and
traffic viewpoint
4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
from Asia

That's how the recovery will work, right?

Rgds,
Yuta
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From: Elaine Sui
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


"In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and
then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You
can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help.
And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN
MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)

I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US
with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US
future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding
Japan, with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)

Elaine

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant
<jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:
Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI

- IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)
- DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)

El, What do you think ?.

Will Indonesia, China and India market have different market
rally compared to US market ? Will the world's indexes decouple ?.

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