saya siap pertemukan anda dengan Pak Rully apa back up yang bisa anda 
berikan?
apakah anda member KIPS BUMI?

Vaulstrad wrote:
>
>
> OK GUA RALAT DECH BUAT RULLY.. GUE CUMAN KESEL AJA KENAPA DIA CEPET 
> BGT BERUBAH PENDAPAT.
>
> MAAF BUAT PAK RULLY. BUT PLEASE GIVE US PROPER REASON. KARENA KITA 
> BANYAK YG SUDAH BACK YOU UP FOR THAT REASON. NOW YOU TURN US DOWN.
>
> Dari article di bawah saja sudah jelas orang sudah judge kita jelek.
>
> "In
> > > 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the
> > > Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the
> > > market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources 
> probe,
> > > nothing much has changed.
> > >
> > > However, despite the potential
> > > damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator â€" not to
> > > mention the interests of small investors â€" it now appears that 
> it’s a
> > > case of “out of sight, out of mind,� with analysts and even 
> Bumi’s
> > > minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision
> > > of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency
> > > (Bapepam-LK). "
>
> you see?? "...suddenly saying they are happy with decision of the 
> capital market..."
>
> Please ini sangat merusak kreabilitas bursa saham kita. Gimana Asing 
> bisa stay lama disini dan beli di harga premium di banding dengan 
> negara2 lain nya.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, "Thomas Frederick" 
> <thomaszone_2...@...> wrote:
> >
> > Jangan berantem dehh...
> >
> > Kalo rully bener2 bisa dibuktikan terima duit... Silahkan 
> dimaki-maki. Kita se milis ngolok2in juga no problem.
> >
> > Tapi kalo lu ngga bisa buktikan....
> >
> > YOU OWE RULLY A VERY VERY BIG APOLOGY.
> >
> > Minimum di publikasikan di OB.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "harrywijaya81" <harrywijay...@...>
> >
> > Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:04:23
> > To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Subject: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, PHâ„¢ <vaulstrad@> wrote:
> > > PH ...............
> > kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ...
> > w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah 
> ... kekekkekeeeee ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di 
> bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol .............
> >
> > mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ...
> > rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap .
> >
> > KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP .
> >
> > DASAR TOLOL ...
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di 
> beli... ;(
> > > Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin 
> call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang 
> tertentu....
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------
> > > Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In
> > > 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the
> > > Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the
> > > market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources 
> probe,
> > > nothing much has changed.
> > >
> > > However, despite the potential
> > > damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator â€" not to
> > > mention the interests of small investors â€" it now appears that 
> it’s a
> > > case of “out of sight, out of mind,� with analysts and even 
> Bumi’s
> > > minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision
> > > of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency
> > > (Bapepam-LK).
> > >
> > > In January, the agency launched a probe into the
> > > Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms â€" PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar 
> Bumi
> > > Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara â€" for a total of Rp 6.18 
> trillion
> > > ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations 
> that
> > > the acquisitions were overpriced.
> > >
> > > It was also alleged that the
> > > acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval
> > > of Bumi shareholders â€" which was never given â€" ­and that some 
> of the
> > > coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie
> > > group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements.
> > >
> > > However,
> > > after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of
> > > an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was
> > > that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, 
> was Rp
> > > 370 billion too high.
> > >
> > > But even here Bumi was given an easy way
> > > out â€" all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it 
> down to a
> > > “reasonable� level, which it says it is now in the process of 
> doing.
> > >
> > > The
> > > market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction
> > > question, saying that since the transactions took place in different
> > > fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise â€" a view 
> that many
> > > would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the
> > > transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa
> > > was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar 
> Bumi
> > > Sakti on Jan. 7.
> > >
> > > Capital market regulations designed to
> > > protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to
> > > seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10
> > > percent of the company’s revenue or 20 percent of its market 
> value. In
> > > this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required
> > > such approval had they not been completed in different years.
> > >
> > > On
> > > the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its
> > > investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the
> > > question is now irrelevant.
> > >
> > > Indra Safitri, an independent
> > > capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its
> > > actions on the findings of the independent appraiser.
> > >
> > > “The
> > > other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are 
> reasonable,� he
> > > said, when asked whether the market watchdog was justified in
> > > abandoning its affiliation probe.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, a representative
> > > of Bumi’s minority shareholders, Rully Oetomo, said: “We 
> welcome the
> > > fact that Bumi’s management is willing to renegotiate and seek a 
> better
> > > price for Fajar Bumi.�
> > >
> > > Rully said that since the transactions
> > > were found to have been nonmaterial, Bumi would not now have to seek
> > > shareholder approval. A meeting had been scheduled for this purpose
> > > this coming Friday.
> > >
> > > “We will not push Bapepam to continue the investigation into the 
> affiliation issue if we are happy with the price,� Rully said.
> > >
> > > But
> > > despite the newfound acquiescence of the company’s shareholders, 
> doubts
> > > nevertheless persist, not to mention concerns over the future of
> > > corporate governance here as a whole, with one analyst having aptly
> > > characterized the entire affair as “nothing more than a game.�
> > >
> > >
> > > Jakarta Globe
> > >
> >
>
> ._,___



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