Don't play a mess with the market maker mr.rojak, if there were no market maker or BOZZ, there were also no big gain or big loss, yesterday you said you are in big gain position right? so it means that you also gain by the help of the BOZZ,which u're yelling at!!! Mbah why keep silent on this man? He definitely not appreciate others opinion in ob Sent from personal computer.
-----Original Message----- From: Bagus Putra Perdana <disclosure....@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:39:41 To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [ob] Thank U yg hari ini udah CUT LOST! EMANG ENAK JADI GEMBEL! geez, this dude's slowly gettin on my nerves. Boils up my hot aired blood. Having said that 'gembel-accusation' when some fellows here like JT and someothers gently post their CL decision is totally uncool. Fine, Ill participate. It may not amount much now but i shall go on the selling side too. Bloody Dimwit On 10/27/09, Muhamad Rojak <muhamad.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank U yg hari ini udah cut loss, biar entar makin cepet JADI GEMBEL!!!:-D > > Pada tanggal 27/10/09, boyz® <m457...@gmail.com> menulis: >> Huahaha... mantabs lah kalo gitu... >> GPP deh nambah saingan, yg penting FUN. >> Masalah gede/kecil dapet cuan, nomor sekian lah. >> toh rejeki udah diatur, katanya. >> Bisa aja dapet cuan gede di bursa, tapi biaya rumah sakit juga gede karena >> stress, kurang FUN in daily activity. >> hehehe... >> >> Salam, >> >> >> 2009/10/27 JT <jsxtra...@yahoo.com> >> >>> >>> >>> Halah ente pake sori-sori segala…., anyway betul banget boss, it’s all >>> about probability… >>> >>> >>> >>> Btw, si EL dan jadi trader tuh…, ampun dah, saingan tambah banyak nih, >>> sementara ‘kuenya’ itu-itu aje…, hehehe… >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: >>> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *boyz® >>> *Sent:* 27 Oktober 2009 22:05 >>> >>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [ob] YG CUT LOST NYESEL ??? >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course, selalu ada resiko pada setiap trade, and ga ada jaminan harga >>> akan sesuai dengan ekspektasi. >>> That's why we should measure the risks and calculate the chances. >>> It is game of probabilities, isn't it? >>> >>> Yah itulah... kadang jam terbang memberikan *feeling *or *blink* >>> mana*rebound on support >>> * yg punya probabilitas besar untuk sukses, and mana yg punya >>> probabilitas >>> kecil atau false rebound. >>> >>> Begitu pula di breakout resistance, mana yg punya peluang besar and mana >>> yg >>> minim. >>> >>> Jadi, dengan mengetahui probabilitas tsb, kita dapat mengukur resiko or >>> peluang, besar or kecil. >>> *On higher risk less chance*: dont hope too much, use less of your >>> capital and dont use margin. >>> *On higher chance less risk*: try to make a big killing profit if we can. >>> >>> Buat yg belum punya *feeling* or *blink* tsb, i called it trial and >>> error. >>> karena seringkali ga cukup cuma dibilangin, kudu ngerasain sendiri. >>> >>> Sorry, bro... bukan maksud ngajarin or keminter, just sharing aja. >>> Kali2 aja ada gunanya. >>> >>> Salam, >>> >>> 2009/10/27 JT <jsxtra...@yahoo.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hmmm.., Sebenernya ngga trial and error juga sih, karena begini; every >>> single trade PASTI ada resiko.., beli di level berapa pun ngga ada >>> jaminan >>> harga bakal bergerak sesuai dgn harapan…., nah teknik buy di support kuat >>> juga begitu, ada resiko, tapi resikonya menjadi lebih kecil, coba aja >>> liat >>> bumi, perlu 3 kali test baru bisa close below, ada yg ‘bantuin’ kita >>> disitu, >>> dan kalaupun jebol, jaraknya masih belum jauh dari level entry kita…, >>> keuntungan lainnya adalah, jika berhasil, dagingnya lumayan tebel…, >>> kebetulan aja BUMI gagal, kalau berhasil kan ada target yg lumayan… >>> >>> >>> >>> Teknik breakout (upside breakout) juga sama, basically main breakout juga >>> sama seperti kita BELI DI SUPPORT.., loh kok bisa?? Karena resistant yg >>> ditembus (breakout) sudah berubah menjadi SUPPORT, sehingga resiko juga >>> terukur dan CL levelnya jika level resistance yg sdh menjadi SUPPORT tsb, >>> tembus ke bawah…., nah inilah kenapa BHSH tidak lebih beresiko >>> dibandingkan >>> nyopet (BLSH), dgn syarat ada satu level yg ditembus dan berubah menjadi >>> support. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nah, menurut ane, yg high risk justru yg beli di level tanggung.., >>> support >>> udh jauh, tapi resistant juga belom jebol, kalo harga bergerak against >>> kita >>> mules dah…, hehe >>> >>> >>> >>> Well, pembahasan diatas sdh diluar TA, ini lebih ke trading strategy… >>> >>> >>> >>> JT >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: >>> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *boyz® >>> *Sent:* 27 Oktober 2009 20:15 >>> >>> >>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [ob] YG CUT LOST NYESEL ??? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Setuju bro... >>> >>> Memang bermain di area support kadang2 harus trial and error. >>> Makanya harus siap dengan kemungkinan jelek (CL), jangan terlena dengan >>> harapan. >>> >>> Makanya kemarin2 itu ane mensyaratkan 3 bar untuk untuk mengkonfirmasi >>> validitas rebound BUMI. >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg176338.html >>> >>> Salam, >>> >>> 2009/10/27 JT™ <jsxtra...@yahoo.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> Waktu saya teriak Makan Kanan di 2600-2650 minggu lalu saya sdh kirim >>> chart, lengkap dgn garis batasnya.., dan saat itu saya sudah tentukan >>> dimana >>> STOP level...., Jadi saya sdh set stop levelnya saat saya entry.., >>> sehingga >>> ngga bingung lagi dan tadi ya tinggal enter aja..., hehe >>> >>> Jadi memang keputusan CL tadi itu tdk impulsive dan jelas bukan karena >>> biji >>> mengkeret, tapi karena memang sdh di rencanakan dari awal. >>> >>> Kenapa 2650? Pertimbangannya Pure TA..., gimana kalo bsk mental? Bagus >>> dong, berarti support bisa diandalkan, dan kita bisa masuk lagi >>> (re-enter) >>> dgn confident, karena dalam TA, one of the most bullish sign adalah saat >>> support gagal di tembus.... (Dgn bbrp syarat tentunya..) >>> >>> apakah breakdown hari ini valid? Blum.., musti liat satu dua hari kedepan >>> utk konfirmasi..., kenapa belum valid kok sdh keluar? Karena memang sdh >>> direncanakan... :) >>> >>> Nanti malem deh chartnya saya post... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.33/2461 - Release Date: >>> 10/27/09 >>> 07:38:00 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > Dikirim dari perangkat seluler saya > > > ------------------------------------ > > + + > + + + + + > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. > + + + + + > + +Yahoo! 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