thn 98 kelas 1 smp??? jangan2 kmu adik kelasku ya?? yg dulu suka nongkrong di gallery danareksa
Pada tanggal 26/03/08, kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: > > Cheers., Baru balik dr INCO (gak ding abis ngecengin anak ATMA, di > INCOnya sih cuman bentar sekedar ambil materi doank ;P,). dr materi > laporan direksi en komisaris sih gada note yg terlalu spesial yah. > hanya saya lihat di data cadangan aja yg kudu aga di UNDERLINE dikit. > perubahan studi tentang cadangan terbukti (proven reserves ato > cadangan dgn degree certainty yg cukup baik). cadangannya turun 11 > juta Ton jd 80 jt Ton. by current stripping ratio yg kira2 5-5.3 > juta ton skrg umur sustainity operasi INCO kalo yg dipake proven > reserves aja deteorate 2 tahun., jd palingan 15 Tahun Operasi Minimal > cuman dr estimate Proven Reserves. ini efeknya ke continuity value di > FCF Model yg harus sedikit dipangkas buat ngadjust figure sustainity > operasi yg slightly decreasing ini... > > Geez, ttg kapitalisme., (but thanx anyway for "meluruskan" pemahaman > saya yg CETEK ini.. tp saya berterimakasih jg buat pak Mr W4W krn ini > jg bisa jd counter perspective atas pemikiran dan perasaan saya > tentang sistem dimana dunia bergerak skrg, this is how our world > goes. money makes it go round...) > > capitalism = free market., it create and rely on speculator and > market player to adjust and balanced the market. (In Theory). Yea, so > seperti saya bilang most of people would be agree that any loophole > or chances on financial system that exploited by Speculator or Player > could be seen just as OKAY and ROUTINE as Cars Passing By On Sudirman > Street., Okay. im not referring to player at my or u or any common > investor/trader calibre. Imagine that u were A player at Millions or > Billions USD Calibre. > > Spotting and Judging for opportunities on financial system Can Be > Done and Its Okay, - Taking Position by that Judgment can Be done and > Its Okay, - Double or Triple even 10th times Leveraging Ur Position > to direct and betting on ur strategy Can be done and Its Okay. > Profiting For them is common and ABSOLUTULEY OKAY! > > Rite??, that is Common and should be widely and Open-arms accepted... > > yea, coba tambahin kalimat "Even if many people is suffers, economy > brokedown, people lost lives, many dad turn jobless, many kids dont > have their right to be educated well... and so and so" sehabis > frase "Profiting from them (the bet) Is Okay",... > > kenapa saya bilang saya inget 98 dan inget waktu kelas 1 smp??.. > karena saat itu 2 sobat saya di kelas Berhenti Sekolah buat bantu > bapaknya jualan (bapaknya di PHK), saya masih inget itu. Amerika > kocar-kacir krn banyak org jobless gara2 Credit Crunch., hah berapa > banyak orang percentage of People yg jobless bahkan susah idup waktu > krisis dulu??. saya ga bilang saya anti kapitalis., its odd to say > that when i work and live from this field. i just say "sampe skrg > saya ga pernah bisa "feel-okay" ketika hal-hal macem eksploitasi > loophole dalam sistem keuangan pasar bebas dan hefty profiting for > them IN EXPENSE OF OTHER PEOPLE ON SUFFERS. dibangga2kan dan > tertawa2.. geez it feels aching man., coba jd mereka., tukang > gorengan bingung kenapa hidup makin susah, minyak jg mahal., Go and > Say "sistem pasar bebas dan ini adalah mekanisme pasar, ato ini > penting untuk adjust balance dalam pasar" ke mereka., geez Man. > C'mon. buat teman2 di US ato yg hidupnya wealthy mungkin ini bukan > masalah besar., mainly mungkin krn "they were not walking on our > shoes". ini bisa dimengerti juga sih., for them its just an ordinary > and routine way of how world should be going. tp saya even skrg kerja > di dunia finansial masih ga bisa "connect" jg dengan konsepsi seperti > itu. bukannya apa2 sih., Cuman Berharap Semuanya Bisa Dijalankan > Lebih Adil... > > and oh u presents me name like Warren Buffet, Bill Gtaes, Steve Jobs. > > mungkin buat mengimbangi bisa dibaca artikel2 tentang kejahatan > korporasi. gausah jauh2 deh., itu freeport, itu shell di nigeria (ga > heran disana pada rusuh). ato pada tataran yg lebih "sopan dan umum" > deh, INCO jual Nikel per juta ton dengan harga rata2 $29881 dan net > margin 50% ato setara cash $14940 per Ton, produksinya dy 76 ribu > ton. tapi bapak tau ga royalti yg dibayar per ton??.. > > hehe, at best cuma $78 doank. > > Nah yg ini aja masih level "lunak" loh... > > okay capitalism stand still and are getting wealthier (stronger)., > but at the expense of "weak" side's suffers. c'mon, everything should > be a little more fair kan buat orang2 kayak "slamet" yg bahkan ga tau > apa itu long equity apa itu short equity apa itu bubble apa itu > kontraksi. yg mereka tau hidup mereka makin hari makin susah... > > > On 3/26/08, mr_w4w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kalo yg ambil untung singkat itu bukan Kapitalis Kang, tapi > > > SPEKULATOR ... > > > > > > Perlu diluruskan tuh pemahaman kang OCOY .. > > > > > > Kapitalis Sejati itu kayak Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Ford, > > > Rockefeller, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos dan 2 pendiri google itu > > > siapa ??? > > > > > > Intinya create long term value for society gitu loh ... > > > > > > Regards, > > > MR_W4W > > > > > > --- In [email protected]<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" > > > <kang_ocoy_maen_saham@> wrote: > > > > > > > > haha engga pak.. cuman suka keusik ga sih pak.. buat sebagian > orang > > > > itu hefty profit by exploit weakness ato loophole di sistem > > > finansial > > > > > -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
