hahaha.. it's my subject when I was in 2nd semester.. LOL..
u really dont need to post it in here..



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *Outflow?
> 
> I forget to tell you, we moved some of our equity funds to fixed 
income,
> they give better returns for sometime now, and seems that everyone 
else did
> it too, that's why IDR has been quite strong albeit IDX tumbles.
> 
> I expect central bank to raise rates even more, maybe to 9.5%? Any 
comment?
> They are doing what they call "Tight Money Policy", to keep the 
money from
> going out of the country by selling short term bonds.
> 
> What is TMP?
> 
> lol. it's a central bank policy designed to curb inflation by 
reducing the
> reserves of commercial banks (and consequently the money supply, 
through
> open market operations), opposite of easy monetary policy (like the 
Fed has
> been doing). **This policy is exercised in times of inflation.
> 
> How the central bank do this?
> 
> *
> 
> *1. Selling securities (bonds) to banks and the public.*
> 
>    - *This decreases the supply of money.  The public is giving 
money (buy)
>    to the Central Bank. In exchange, the Fed is giving (sell) the 
public/banks
>    bonds, which isn't money.  Hence, there is less money 
circulating in the
>    economy.
> 
>    *
>    - *Because banks now have less reserves, they cannot loan as 
much money
>    to the public.*
> 
> *2. Increase the Interest Rate*
> 
>    - *By increasing the Int. rate, it costs more interest for banks 
to
>    borrow from other banks.  Thus, banks have less excess reserves 
and lend
>    less to the public.*
> 
> *3. Increase the Reserve Ratio*
> 
>    - *By increasing the reserve ratio, banks now have less excess 
reserves.
>    Therefore, money supply has been decreased, and the banks cannot 
loan as
>    much money to the public.*
> 
> * *
> 
> *Effects of Changing Money Supply on Aggregate Demand *
> 
> *
> 1. interest rates rise (SM=Supply, DM=Demand). Ppl instead of 
holding IDR,
> they prefer to hold high yielding bonds.
> *
> 
> **
> 
> *2. investment falls. Self explanatory.
> *
> 
> **
> 
> *3. Aggregate demand 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggregate_demand> falls*
> 
> **
> 
> *The steeper the Dm curve, the larger the effect of any given 
change in the
> money supply on the equilibrium rate of interest.  Furthermore, any 
given
> change in the interest rate will have a larger impact on 
investment - and
> hence a greater impact on aggregate demand and GDP.*
> 
> *
> *
> 
> *As a side note, an tight money policy decreases net exports 
because of
> higher interest rates.*
> *
> The food prices will spike in the coming month, mainly in fasting 
season (I
> still don't get it, does ppl eat more in fasting season?) and idl 
fitr, ppl
> will need more cash in hand thus making inflation rise again, so 
from my
> point of view, the central bank is doing it right by increasing int 
rate.*
> *
> Now, would you keep your cmdty stocks at this time? This is very 
scary you
> know, sell them all to me..lol** Terserah mau tidak percaya juga 
Elaine
> tidak perduli.. ^_^
> 
> Elaine agak malas kasih lecture apalagi OB isinya orang pintar 
semua, paling
> enak kasih gambar tombstone saja, lebih seru...
> 
> *
> 
> 
> **
> 
> *Or this..*
> 
> 
> **
> 
> 
> **
> 
> *sadly only few got the message.. well that's your problem, not 
mine.. ^_^
> *
> 
> *    *
> *Elaine**
> *
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:20 PM, jsx_consultant <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> > <you.can.call.me.elaine@> wrote:
> > >
> > > *I'd buy Astra Agro @13000-15000 and sell them @45k in 2H/FY09.
> > That'd be
> > > 200% gain. Fair enough?
> >
> > It is fair enough.....
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Both of them are right, since there's no exact timeframe 
supplied.
> > Anyway, I
> > > put a huge proportion on financials and property, as you can see
> > I'm seeking
> > > the most defensive sector in this 2H08 (refer to Marcello's 
post),
> >
> > Last week, the switching from Commodity to Bangking sector is
> > still happening, but the OUTFLOW fom Commodity sector is greater
> > than the INFLOW to banking sector. So the is a NET REDEMPTION from
> > BEI.
> >
> > Check this Fund Flow graphics: 
http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png
> >
> > Pada graphic terlihat:
> > - IHSG jatuh lebih dalam dibanding Fund Flow dari tgl 11/8/08
> >  sampai hari ini. Ini berarti IHSG jatuh karena faktor SENTIMEN,
> >  yaitu jatuhnya harga minyak dan bukan semata FUND OUTFLOW.
> >
> >
> >
> > but IF
> > > cmdty stocks fall way beyond my valuation, I might increase it 
back.
> > >
> > > Unlike traders I just can't put them in 100% in cash. That's why
> > they're
> > > called Actively Managed Funds.
> > >
> > > (It's funny, somehow some ppl looks smarter and talks much that 
he
> > used to.
> > > It's traders psychological trait, the more you make analysis, 
the
> > less
> > > you're trading. It's a sign that most player here are staying 
away
> > from the
> > > market which also indicates that the bottom is near, and 
somehow I
> > know
> > > hendrik was not trading what he was saying... roflmao just
> > kidding,..)
> > >
> > > Well all I know that this year crude oil will be back to 80, fed
> > stays at
> > > 2.00, ID int. rate will be 9.75, PO futures below 2000, N 
McCloskey
> > below
> > > 100, generally everything will be down before they start to 
rebound,
> > > obviously, and Yudoyhono will win the election for the 2nd time.
> > >
> > > I won't respond to any of your argument cuz it's not happening 
yet.
> > Arguing
> > > the future is stupid. ^_^
> > >
> > > As for Bakrie Group, we just don't like to invest our fund to
> > someone we
> > > can't trust. (it feels like telling your pet dog to guard your
> > sausages, you
> > > just KNOW it won't work..lol)
> > >
> > > Happy Independence Day, I wish IDX will shine again and 
everyone is
> > > wealthier next year.
> > >
> > > Elaine**
> > > *
> > > 2008/8/17 jsx_consultant <jsx-consultant@>
> > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww"
> > > > <hendrik_lwww@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > ....
> > > > > salah satu kelamahan BALANCING adalah
> > > > > newbie akan bingung mau CL apa tidak
> > > >
> > > > Jangankan Newbie, embah aja BINGUNG mau ikut pak Halim atau
> > > > Macquire. Yang manasih yg BENER ??? Jangan jangan kedua
> > > > dua nya salah dan yang bener adalah yang punya TP MODERAT
> > > > tidak kerendahan dan tidak ketinggian.
> > > >
> > > > Member senior 'punya' tanggung jawab ama yg yunior, AT LEAST
> > > > untuk tidak memberikan posting yg bernuansa 'TERROR', berikan
> > > > mereka info yg WAJAR (meskipun embah yakin pak Halim dan
> > > > Macquire merasa SUDAH memberi info yg WAJAR meskipun angkanya 
BEDA
> > > > SELANGIT).
> > > >
> > > > Sehingga para Newbie at least akan merasa FIT (tidak stress)
> > > > untuk membuat DECISION: Cutloss, HOLD, BUY atau Average down.
> > > >
> > > > Jika mereka STRESS, mereka tidak akan bisa membuat keputusan
> > > > YG CORRECT, karena FEAR akan lebih dominan daripas logika...
> > > >
> > > > Kalo soal benar atau salah sih MASALAH LAIN karena salah satu
> > > > dari SENIOR diatas AJA akan SALAH, apalagi yg 
newbie...hehehe..
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