Sekarang itu, AS KRISIS, US$ NAIK
AS PULIH, US$ TAMBAH NAIK

Serba salah ya ...


2008/10/27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>    Nambahin mbah.
>
> Sekarang ini, yg defisitnya luar biasa, salah satunya adalah AS.  Herannya,
> seluruh dunia, sadar/tak sadar, mau/tak mau membantu  amrik.
>
> Coba liat, Yieldnya SUN mereka makin mengecil, harganya makin naik. Ini
> karena orang rame2 beli SUNnya utk tempat berlindung.
>
> Udah gitu, saat krisis gini, harusnya yg paling goncang kan dollar tuh. Eh
> … malah orang rame2 borong dollar. Katanya 'safe-heaven' gitu.
>
> Kayaknya Amrik juga engga takut bakalan inflasi kalo nyetak dollar tiap
> hari. Toh tiap hari juga rasa2nya diburu orang … LL
>
> Engga habis pikir saya. Kok bisa2nya seluruh dunia jadi 'mensubsidi' Amrik.
> ….
>
>
>
> *Bukan orang ekonomi, tapi suka merhatiin ekonomi gara2 nyangkut ….*
>
> * *
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *jsx_consultant
> *Sent:* Monday, 27 October 2008 4:12 PM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Dunia memang goblok...Re: How bad and how
> long?iceland goes bankrupt?
>
>
>
> Islandia bangkrut karena devisanya nol atau engga punya dollar
> buat bayar import. Kalo devisa BI yg sekitar 50 miliar dollar
> habis maka kita tidak bisa bayar utang luar negri karena kita
> engga bisa bayar pake rupiah.
>
> Jadi bangkrut disini adalah bangkrut dari segi valuta asing.
> Tapi Amerika punya utang luar negri yang begitu gede ENGGA AKAN
> pernah bangkrut karena dollar adalah mata uang negara Amerika,
> tinggal nyetak doang...
>
> Jadi untuk bayar utang, suatu negara harus mengexport barang,
> menarik invetasi atau bikin pinjaman valas yg baru.
>
> Coba kita bayangin devisa BI yg 50 miliar dollar itu senilai
> ama apa ?.
> - Kita ambil harga tanah dipusat kota = 10j/m2.
> - 50 miliar dollar ini dapet berapa m2 ?
> - 50 miliar x kurs 10.000/ 10 juta = 500.000 m2 =
> atau tanah yg luasnya = 700m x 700m = 0,7km x 0,7km, tanah ini
> masih lebih kecil dari luas MONAS..
>
> Jadi devisa BI masih JAUH lebih kecil dari harga tanah Monas,
> karena tanah MONAS bisa laku 50j/m2. Jadi kalo Monas dijual ama
> asing kita bakal dapet devisa mungkin 200 miliar dollar. (ini
> cuman buat ilustrasi doang yah, jangan diprotes)
>
> Jadi kalo devisa BI habis, kita dinyatain bangkrut padahal
> tanah RI itu ada dari Sabang ampe Meroke, itu tanahnya doang
> belum isinya. Tapi gara gara bayar import dan utang harus pake
> USD, maka tiap negara diseluruh dunia harus berusaha mendapatkan
> USD.
>
> Dunia memang maenan orang Amerika, udah kebawa sengsara akibat
> ulah orang Amerika yg bikin krisis, masih mau nurut lagi ngumpulin
> dollar... hehehe...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Vincent Chase
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > feeling sy bakal lama neh
> > kemaren bangun tidur denger berita dr cnn,
> >
> > ada berita kalo iceland bakrupt. dulu mulainya dr asian financial
> krisis, ini jgn sampe mo dimulai european financial crisis
> >
> > Iceland goes bankrupt Posted by: Michael Mandel on October
> 10 That's an amazing sentence: Iceland goes bankrupt. But
> that's exactly what happened yesterday (see BW piece here. See NY
> Times piece here). That's a clear sign that the global financial
> crisis is entering a new and vastly more dangerous phase, where we
> are paying the price of the lack of a global financial regulator and
> global central bank.
> > What `bankrupt' means is just that: The country cannot pay back
> its external debts, and the Icelandic currency, the krona, has become
> essentially valueless in the rest of the world. That means the
> country can no longer pay for imports.
> > The Icelandic problems have nothing to do directly with American
> real estate. As Kerry Capell of BW writes:
> >
> >
> > With the privatization of the banking sector, completed in 2000,
> Iceland's banks used substantial wholesale funding to finance their
> entry into the local mortgage market and acquire foreign financial
> firms, mainly in Britain and Scandinavia…In just five years, the
> banks went from being almost entirely domestic lenders to becoming
> major international financial intermediaries. In 2000, says Richard
> Portes, a professor of economics at London Business School, two-
> thirds of their financing came from domestic sources and one-third
> from abroad. More recently—until the crisis hit—that ratio was
> reversed. But as wholesale funding markets seized up, Iceland's banks
> started to collapse under a mountain of foreign debt. What's worse,
> with Iceland sitting outside the major currency trading blocs, there
> may be no one with the incentive or ability to save it. The country
> is looking for loans from the IMF and from Russia. But the United
> Kingdom is actually threatening to sue Iceland to
> > get back money.
> > Where does the crisis go next? Most exposed are countries with
> large amounts of external debt relative to the size of their economy.
> A quick calculation suggests that by this measure, the U.S. is
> relatively well off, with external debt about equal to GDP. Japan's
> external debt is about 40-50% of GDP, as is Canada's (these numbers
> may change as I refine my calculations). Italy is at about 100%, and
> Germany and France are in the 140-150% range.
> > From this perspective, the U.S.—with its external debt mostly in
> dollars—looks like a bastion of stability. The euro zone has some
> weaknesses—Belgium and the Netherlands have uncomfortably high debt
> levels, and Ireland is extremely high. But there is a political
> framework in place which should allow political leaders to take
> effective action if they want.
> > The biggest dangers are for the UK and Switzerland. These
> countries, although much bigger than Iceland, are major financial
> intermediaries with big external debts. What's more, they are outside
> the major currency blocs, with debt denominated in foreign
> currencies. That means if their currency starts to devalue, their
> debts will become more and more onerous.
> > And now we are in very tricky waters, which are looking
> uncomfortably like the Great Depression. The major players are the
> U.S., the Eurozone, Japan, and China. The question is: Will they act
> collectively, or will they engage beggar-thy neighbor policies?
> > More later on this.?
> >
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