Pak, saya "merasa" ada sedikit kontradiksi dalam tulisan anda, apa ini 
dikarenakan anda juga belum yakin?
 
Saya berpendapat, bahwa jika krisis sampai menjalar ke Indonesia, tidak dalam 
waktu dekat ini. Berarti kita masih punya cukup banyak waktu untuk melakukan 
persiapan yang diperlukan. Keadaan ini jauh berbeda dengan kejadian tahun 1998, 
dimana krisisnya justru dimulai dari kawasan kita.Karena itu, saya SEPENDAPAT 
bahwa posisi Oktober 2008 kemarin adalah BOTTOM-nya, walaupun belum tentu akan 
diikuti dengan rally panjang



To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 01:58:41 
+0000Subject: [obrolan-bandar] USA sedang muram, tapi disini belum berasa 
tuh....




USA sedang muram. Walaupun minggu ini DJIA menunjukkan tanda-tanda pembalikan 
arah menuju penguatan, tapi indikator ekonominya justru semakin 
memprihatinkan.Kalau dikatakan bahwa perbaikan ekonomi SUDAH DIDEPAN MATA untuk 
Amerika, rasanya masih jauuuhhh... Belum lagi rembetannya ke Eropa, terutama 
Eropa TImur, yang resonansinya kemana-mana. Turut prihatin dengan nasib Eropa 
Timur, terutama karena kawasan ini sudah mulai meningkatkan hubungan bisnsi 
dengan Indonesia akhir-akhir ini.Di Indonesia, terus terang saya masih belum 
melihat sesuatu yang mengkhawatirkan. Laporan-laporan emiten malah mambaik. 
Petani sawit dan petambang tmah memang sedang dalam kesulitan saat ini, tapi 
mereka toh sudah menikmati booming selama 2 tahun belakangan ini, dan saya 
yakin petani dan petambang yang cukup bijak sudah punya cukup banyak tabungan 
untuk bekal menghadapi masa sulit beberapa bulan mendatang. Emiten komoditipun 
juga sama kondisinya. Tahun depan bakal menjadi tahun yang kurang ramah, tapi 
cadangan kas masih gendut. Tentu saja ini hanya bagi yang cukup prudent dan 
menerapkan manajemen resiko secara benar.Contoh nafsu ekspansi berlebihan yang 
menimpa Bakrie Grup tentu menjadi pelajaran berarti bagi seluruh pelaku bisnis 
di Indonesia (barangkali bakal menjadi kasus klasik di kuliah-kuliah manajemen, 
he,he,he...) Saya berpendapat, bahwa jika krisis sampai menjalar ke Indonesia, 
tidak dalam waktu dekat ini. Berarti kita masih punya cukup banyak waktu untuk 
melakukan persiapan yang diperlukan. Keadaan ini jauh berbeda dengan kejadian 
tahun 1998, dimana krisisnya justru dimulai dari kawasan kita.Karena itu, saya 
SEPENDAPAT bahwa posisi Oktober 2008 kemarin adalah BOTTOM-nya, walaupun belum 
tentu akan diikuti dengan rally panjang. Masih banyak guncangan didepan mata, 
tapi sudah tidak seseram bulan Oktober. Seperti yang selalu dikatakan TBumi : 
optimis sajalah.....Kusni
APEvidence of a recession piles higher with new dataFriday October 31, 7:41 pm 
ET By Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer 



Evidence of a recession piles even higher with new data showing Americans are 
spending less WASHINGTON (AP) -- Evidence of a recession piled ever higher 
Friday, with new figures showing Americans are spending less and gloomy about 
the economy, while the government signaled it won't buy stock in the financing 
arms of auto companies to prop them up. The Commerce Department reported 
consumer spending dropped a sharp 0.3 percent in September while their incomes, 
the fuel for future spending, managed only a small 0.2 percent gain. 
That followed a report a day earlier that the U.S. economy shrank by 0.3 
percent in the third quarter. The accepted definition of a recession is two 
straight quarters of a shrinking economy.
Closing out the worst October in 21 years but one of the best weeks ever, 
investors did some bargain shopping on Wall Street, snapping up stocks that 
have plunged in value. The Dow Jones industrial average gained nearly 145 
points.
Meanwhile, the outgoing Bush administration sent signals to automakers and 
other industries hoping for government purchases of their stock that they 
probably won't qualify for the program.
Administration officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the 
program is still being put together, said it was unlikely the auto companies 
would be able to qualify for direct government purchases of stock in their 
auto-financing arms as part of the $250 billion stock purchase program.
They could still be eligible for government purchases of bad assets, such as 
auto loans, under a separate program that is expected to spend $100 billion 
initially. The government plans to buy stock in banks and lift bad assets on 
their books as part of the financial system bailout.
The wrangling over the broader rescue program continued, with Democrats 
stressing Congress wants the package to be used to pump new loans into the 
economy, not diverted to stockholders or executives or to buy other banks.
"I am deeply disappointed that a number of financial institutions are 
distorting the legislation that Congress passed," said House Financial Services 
Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass. He announced hearings on the rescue 
package Nov. 12 and 18.
The Treasury Department said it would extend a Nov. 15 deadline for banks that 
do not have publicly traded stock to apply for the government stock-purchasing 
plan -- a plan that could extend to 6,000 banks.
The bank rescue is intended to shore up financial companies and get lending, 
the lifeblood of the economy, going again.
Meanwhile, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said in a speech that whatever 
system is constructed following the government takeover of mortgage giants 
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac must have better safeguards to make sure it can work 
during times of stress.
Bernanke said the credit crisis had exposed serious deficiencies in areas 
beyond home loans.
"The boom in subprime mortgage lending was only part of a much broader credit 
boom characterized by underpricing of risk, excessive leverage and the creation 
of complex and opaque financial instruments that proved fragile under stress," 
Bernanke said.
As the nation learns more about what went wrong, the economy grows ever 
bleaker. The Commerce Department report that consumer spending fell by 0.3 
percent in September followed two months in which spending was essentially flat.
A separate survey released Friday by the University of Michigan and Reuters 
showed consumer confidence in October fell to 57.6, the biggest one-month drop 
in the survey's history, which dates to 1978.
And economists expect Americans to cut back further. The nation's financial 
outlook is dimming just as the critical holiday shopping season looms, and 
stores are bracing for one of the worst on record.
David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York, said he believed 
the recession could turn out to be the longest in the post World War II period.
"Things are still looking soft and the light at the end of the tunnel is a long 
way off," Wyss said.
In a separate report, the Labor Department said the wages and benefits of U.S. 
workers rose by a modest 0.7 percent in the third quarter, the same as in the 
first and second quarters.
The spending report showed that an inflation gauge tied to spending edged up 
just 0.1 percent in September. But prices over the past year are up by more 
than 4 percent, and inflation is outside the Fed's comfort zone.
Still, the central bank is expected to focus on fighting to keep the country 
out of a severe recession -- not raising rates to fight inflation.
The Fed cut a key interest rate by a half-point on Wednesday to 1 percent, 
tying the lowest level in the past half-century. Analysts said if the economy 
remains weak, the Fed could well cut rates again at their last meeting of the 
year on Dec. 16.
Associated Press Writers Jennifer Loven and Christopher Rugaber in Washington 
contributed to this report.
 





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