It’s likely some other change you’ve made to the system, because a default 
install on default Ubuntu doesn’t behave like this.

We can’t really guess what you’ve done.

Adam.

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> On 11 Oct 2024, at 09:28, prkjnr--- via observium 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> thanks Adam,
> 
> I just went with the one I built fully manually.
> 
> I had disabled and uninstalled apparmour and still same errors,
> 
> thanks for your support
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