Anton== On Feb 3, 1:45 am, "Antonio Gandalf's" <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a message I sent to David Lingard awhile ago. > So lets' blame Salt River instead. > Gandalf’s Camera Proposal > > For the past 9 years I’ve been the owner, manager, barman and what > ever else was needed to keep Gandalf’s running, working 16-24hrs a > day > everyday but now it’s time for me to take a small brake but before I > do to ensure that it keeps running the way I want it to I will be > installing a 16 camera system. > Gandalf’s has always been plagued by vicious rumors mostly thought up > by our competitors but here let me state some facts about Gandalf’s > and myself. > • Gandalf’s has been in operation for 9 years with a strict zero > tolerance to crime position. > • We have worked closely with the police in the past to varied > degrees > including as informant. > • The SAP are allowed free run at Gandalf’s and have never been > hampered with any of there operations or regular checks. > • We work closely with our neighbors and are in constant contact > with > them. > • My cell number is available to all my neighbors and they use it > whenever they need help or have any problems. > • We post regular security guards in roads in our immediate area. > • I do regular patrols on my own and with my security. > • Gandalf’s is one of the few places in Obz that has an > entertainment > license. > • When we first moved into the area crime of all sorts was a huge > problem. > • Initially any criminals we caught were sent to the SAP but this > did > not seem to work 7/8 years ago, they were out within a day or two > laughing at us, not the fault of the SAP but our judicial system were > criminals seem to have more rights than we do, so we took matters > into > our own hands and this has brought me into trouble with the SAP with > numerous assault and assault gbh charges brought against me but any > of > the guys we did catch have since then not been back and crime in our > small patrolled area is almost nonexistent. > My belief is criminals take away our rights everyday so why should we > give them theirs and if this makes me as bad as them I would rather > have that than be controlled by them. “Obz Central” is a regular war > zone and if a more hardcore approach to criminals is not taken soon > we > will have no hope to clean up our town. > To help control crime even more we will offer two cameras to the > community. Unfortunately both cameras will have to be close enough to > Gandalf’s for us to monitor it. One of these has already been booked > by residents in Cole Street the other suggestion would be the road > directly behind Gandalf’s. At a later stage if this works we will be > glad to include more cameras but as I’m sure you are all aware they > do > not come cheap. > Camera information: > • As far as I know there are no running costs. > • We install the camera run a split line if possible, one to the > proposed resident and one to Gandalf's were it's recorded on a hard > drive on a seven day cycle period > • All video footage will only be available to the residents > covered by > the camera provided they are accompanied by a member of the SAP, > Neighborhood watch or CPF. > • All video footage recorded by the 16 cameras at Gandalf's will > be > available at all times to members of the SAP, Neighborhood watch or > CPF. > • Maintenance will be covered by Gandalf’s if the cash is > available. > • All residents covered by the system will be given sign stating > that > they are being monitored. > • We will also offer five residents in the area an infrared > outdoor > light to be installed ASAP by the resident. > • This system will not prevent crime but will hopefully offer a > deterrent. > > If you have any more queries you can contact me on 0833300700 or by > e- > mail. All I ask is some patience, we only start our indoor > installation in a week and that will hopefully only take two weeks, > the outdoor installations besides the two cameras I’m offering will > take another week and the final two cameras should only take two > days. > > Your plans for the area sound good and yes you can add me to the > Google group. I do regular patrols on my own and with my security let > me know what the “green routes” are so that I may add it to my own > area of patrols. > Zero Tolerance. > Antonio. > > And now today I apear to be a target. > What does surprise me though is after 9 years the worst complaint I > have is the tagging up and down lower main rd and since you guys are > convinced that every tag is done my alternative clientele because it > is so much easier to blame people that are different, why not blame > them for everything else lets forget about the fact that I am the > only > night club owner that does regular patrols on my own, I am the only > night club owner prepared to pay for security in the road bouncers > not > your wanabee car guards lets forget about the track record we have > with the police instead we will admit to every single tag done the > same tags you will find outside Roots, Obz Café, Spar, Cape Town, > Stellenbosch…ect.. ect..ect. > Yes Brian I realize that you have never liked me but you have been > down to Gandalf’s several times before and after you cleared me. > I made a promise to you back then and I’ve kept it I keep my area as > clean as possible, I hate taggers and keep them away from my premise > I > don’t want the area to go to waist that’s just bad business no one > wants to go to an area if it looks like a sh#t hole. > As for the article written 5 years ago in 2004 it’s quite obvious > that > this person was a client of mine when we opened and only played Goth > and is now unhappy about the fact that we now include a more diverse > style of music not very popular with Goths, but includes 80’s, pop, > rock and metal. > > On Feb 1, 8:40 pm, Big Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > Appreciate the response. I enjoy alternative ways of life. Mine are > > very simple. Clean up Lower Main Road, especially Gandalf's and the > > Bijou. Along with the right to party, comes responsibility. > > Observatory has always attracted special people, with particular > > tastes and talents. Show them. > > Brian. > > > On Jan 30, 9:25 am, Jonathan Endersby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Marthinus & Brian > > > > I'm not a Goth but I am friends with quite a few... and we're not > > > talking about 28 year old unemployed high school drop outs wearing > > > black... The goth lifestyle is just that... a lifestyle. Like people > > > who collect stamps, computer nerds and surfers. > > > > Case in point; one of my best friends is Gotham regular, she's also a > > > respected journalist, church going Christian and avid recycler. > > > > The Beatles used to be the devil's music, before that it was pipe organs. > > > > As Marthinus said, it's far less sensationalist, but also far more > > > likely, that the most accurate demographic of the taggers is probably: > > > "Kids, mostly boys". > > > > j. > > > > 2009/1/30 Marthinus Versfeld <[email protected]>: > > > > > Its nice to see that prejudice is alive and well in Obs -- I always > > > > figured > > > > that this was the one suburb where people would be a little less > > > > judgmental > > > > and close-minded, but I guess not... > > > > > With close on 15 years involvement in alternative subculture as club > > > > patron, > > > > event organizer and DJ & 5 years involvement in running events in Obs, > > > > as a > > > > home owner in Obs and as *shock horror* a Goth, I can tell you from > > > > personal > > > > experience that Gotham patrons and 'goths' in general are certainly not > > > > responsible for the rampant tagging in lower main road -- perhaps you > > > > should > > > > look at the more obvious (and let sensational) possibilities including > > > > the > > > > impoverished and disaffected youth round the corner in Salt River > > > > before you > > > > throw unsubstantiated accusations around? > > > > > Marthinus > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Big Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Oh, and check this out... > > > >>http://www.myspace.com/gothamza > > > >> Dark Vader...my ass. > > > > >> On Jan 29, 8:40 pm, "Brian Gray" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > Sounds like a lot fun...2007. Now we know what certain folks get up > > > >> > to > > > >> > and this may explain why there is so much graffiti down Lower Main > > > >> > Road. > > > >> > Thanks, Goths and punks. > > > >> > Click on the link... and read on. The bit about ONW is > > > >> > fun.http://www.darksideforum.co.za/forum/index.php?topic=2600.30-Hide > > > >> > quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
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