Dear All. 
 
Thanks for your comment and response. 
 
I have forwarded to David the tele number of the gentleman in Kenilworth
/Wynberg (below the line ) where there is a private security initiative.
They now have 18 huts positioned in this area and it works like a dream.
Most of the huts are sponsored it would seem and they even have sponsors
from Pick and Pay for teas and coffees etc. for the guards etc. etc.     
 
They only employ Congolees who are not regarded as security guards (however
dressed as such) but their function is to observe and report.     They get
fed by the residents who take turns (they have a roster in place for this  )
to cut their salary expense to these guards.   I propose that we look into
this scheme and see how it can effectively work for us or not.  It  works
perfectly in the area mentioned.     Obs can be different but that is for us
to establish.and figure out how it can be adapted to OBS.     
 
I honestly believe that every possible measure needs to be applied now to
stop any thug even wanting to pass by OBS . They need to feel so
uncomfortable and unwelcome.     They need to get the message loud and clear
, but need to be stopped before they can even or want to attempt any act of
crime in our suburb.     Having posters and doing the rounds with the police
early evening is not going to save lives .  Thugs circumvent every system.
They are masters at it.     We need 24 hour on the spot monitoring and
patrol in action.   This  is a WAR ZONE being won by the thugs thus far.  !

 
Why should any  person, young or old, feel unsafe on our streets .?   Why
should we not carry items on us ? . These are our streets and  they are the
intruders  who need to feel uncomfortable.            They sneak in and
sneak out far too easy and this needs to be stopped now for once and for
all.    Lets not make excuses, but  get the ball rolling  for a new no
tolerance approach to crime and it starts, I agree, with each and every one
of us.  !   
 
We need to see what our budget is and what can be done within this budget
and then we need to find ways and means to improve our  security  as widely
as possible within our means to the benefit of the complete Obs  community.
Every person walking on the street or arriving home whatever the hour day or
night, , must feel safe and know there is help almost a call away if at all
necessary.        .  Each and every road can be a hot spot as any time  as
we know and have all experienced.   Our streets must become safe again.!!
Security is no. 1 and most prime and thereafter we can worry about the rest.

 
Kind regards to all ! 
 
Annemarie and trust to meet you all soon.    
 
  

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*       Radio license fees. <>  [9 Updates] 

*       FW: STUDENT MURDER AND CRIME UPDATE <>  [3 Updates] 

*       [obsnw] Re Student Murdered and Security  <> Proposal [6 Updates] 

*       [obsnw] Abridged summary of  <> [email protected] - 1 Message
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 Topic: Radio license fees.
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/t/98dc76f38cbe978b> 

        Big Brian <[email protected]> Feb 16 10:51AM -0800 ^ <> 
 
Dear Observatory,
It has come to my attention that radio license fees are due to be paid
to ICASA.
I suggest that these fees are covered by the OCA, and not by
individual members of the community, more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/df2d69c6df2376c3> 


        Trevor Hughes <[email protected]> Feb 16 09:23PM +0200 ^ <> 
 
> These members of the Observatory neighbourhood watch, provide a
> voluntary service to the community.
> Why should they pay a license fee?
 
Brian we have already decided to ask radio holders to more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/1eda732300c4d2f1> 


        Doug Price <[email protected]> Feb 17 07:54AM +0200 ^ <> 
 
Hi Brian,
 
I agree with you. These people who hold the two way radios do a great
service to the community.
 
Regards
 
Doug
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/123cf1835c484bb0> 


        Bev P <[email protected]> Feb 17 10:25AM +0200 ^ <> 
 
What percentage of ONW 2-way radio holders have contributed to the licence
fee?
 
As a pensioner and active patroller I have paid my R50 but it was a tough
call for me.....
I also spend quite a more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/c1a810a202df4fb6> 


        Rob Gaylard <[email protected]> Feb 17 01:03AM -0800 ^ <> 
 
This is an ONW matter, and also an Obsid matter, since they also use
the network, and helped pay for setup costs. I don't have a radio
myself, but have quite happily paid R100 towards the licence more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/5d5a72416cb695dd> 


        Trevor Hughes <[email protected]> Feb 17 11:03AM +0200 ^ <> 
 
> What percentage of ONW 2-way radio holders have contributed to the licence
> fee?
 
Helen sent out invoices to all people with a call sign - inadvertantly
- I still need to tell her which people more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/f0a3cbdb9c4c7471> 


        Bev P <[email protected]> Feb 17 11:41AM +0200 ^ <> 
 
Hi Trevor
 
Thanks for your response, understanding and excellent suggestion
(food-growing-wise).
 
I do grow my own veg but have a postage stamp garden which curtails my
boundless enthusiasm more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/be98ed4d505f6e79> 


        "Helen Swart" <[email protected]> Feb 17 11:48AM +0200 ^ <> 
 
I received a list from James with the names of radio holders and have 
therefore credited the remaining persons with call signs only.
 
Payment can either be made at the Pepper Tree Parking Lot or more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/4100af6eded3198d> 


        "Colleen Bester (CI)" <[email protected]> Feb 17 12:07PM +0200 ^
<> 
 
Hi Bev -

Please contact me on [email protected] as soon as possible....

Thank you 


 
________________________________
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/82e60c15c44bda8f> 



 Topic: FW: STUDENT MURDER AND CRIME UPDATE
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/t/2c5e8a973d652a15> 

        "David Raphael" <[email protected]> Feb 16 08:49PM +0200 ^ <> 
 
<http://obz.org.za/lists/ut.php?u=851bf41175ac0642f91c32f4c0454dad
<http://obz.org.za/lists/ut.php?u=851bf41175ac0642f91c32f4c0454dad&m=365>
&m=365>
Observatory Neighbourhood Watch Newsletter
Dear Obs residents and businesses,
STUDENT MURDERS
 
Please help make our more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/9890ff59faad148c> 


        "Annemarie du Bois" <[email protected]> Feb 17 10:59AM +0200 ^ <> 
 
Dear David, 
 

 
Thanks for this. In my opinion, this might not have occurred had there
been a security guard watching out for any possible thug. Eg. a security
hut more or less at the more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/977d398f76d4ac3> 


        Bev P <[email protected]> Feb 17 12:05PM +0200 ^ <> 
 
Hi Annemarie
 
Your concerns are certainly justified.
 
I am an ONW 'patroller' and would gladly have you join us.
We need people like you who keep an eye out for what's going on around them.
more... <http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/d2cd8e68d1a968eb> 



 Topic: [obsnw] Re Student Murdered and Security Proposal
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/t/aeef6aca982bf46d> 

        Rosemary Robins <[email protected]> Feb 16 02:20PM +0200 ^ <> 
 
Much as your concerns are appreciated, do you really think your suggestions
are financially/realistically feasible?
 
more... <http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/79f7b94f80fc8c58> 


        Biddy Greene <[email protected]> Feb 16 04:33AM -0800 ^ <> 
 
I take Rosemary's point about the problems of financing Annemarie's
suggestions, but would like to say that I agree with Annemarie that
too often we see the VS guys chatting in a group. more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/efad61940aefe07> 


        Reinmar <[email protected]> Feb 16 04:42AM -0800 ^ <> 
 
I also agree with Annemarie with regards to the Vetus Schola guys.
Yesterday afternoon I turned down Trill Road from Main Road to go home
(at about 19:00) and saw 4 VS guards in a group (c/o Trill & more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/ff82546a2d58c0ed> 


        "Justin Ashley" <[email protected]> Feb 16 03:25PM +0200 ^
<> 
 
Hi Annemarie
 
Thanks for your suggestions below. While the idea of huts dotted around Obs
and staffed on a permanent basis by guards is a wonderful one, it is not
within our budget to implement more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/cd0e2e25bbc8fe68> 


        KerryJade <[email protected]> Feb 16 04:02AM -0800 ^ <> 
 
I wholeheartedly agree with Annemarie.
 
I have been living in Obs for almost 2 years now and have been mugged/
assulted/ robbed 4 times in various area's of Obs. I am a young woman,
more... <http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/f7a5332085ec7151> 


        Bev P <[email protected]> Feb 16 10:51PM +0200 ^ <> 
 
*Yes* to everything everyone has said here.
 
I think I'd like to suggest that ONW patrollers again try to harness the
energy they / we once had and get out there again.
I think it reasonable to more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/2a201c8f7f6931f5> 



 Topic: [obsnw] Abridged summary of [email protected] - 1 Message
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/t/833ecca8653c6851> in 1 Topic

        "Annemarie du Bois" <[email protected]> Feb 16 04:55PM +0200 ^ <> 
 
A copy of my letter to the vice chancellors office. 

Dear Nico, 

I notice a copy of the vice chancellors letter to all. 

I honestly believe we need more visible more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw/msg/a2c9401d4a01b155> 




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