Dear Chris A lot of what you shared are experienced by many in Obs, from many in Obs, and best that this subject be passed on to the OBSID-Chat as to provide insight, answers and guidance in the way forward. James
On 22 November 2012 18:53, CJ <[email protected]> wrote: > If there's one thing that could lift up Obz immensely, it's if we made it > an *unattractive* place for loiterers and vagrants to be. That being - > zero tolerance for any bum to park their bum. > > Yep, I probably sound like a hard-assed bastard, but I'm gatvol of it! > > Almost every day for years when I walk to through the CBD, I get > staggering idiots asking for money or rambling something irritatingly > uninterpretable, particularly within a block of the bottle shops. > Yesterday I found human shit for the upteenth time in my front yard that > had the distinctly quintessential Obz-subway-bergie-aroma. > The day before that my young dog picked up and presented to me a scrap of > newspaper with human shit on it at the Village Green (I'm hoping the dog > will eventually learn not do this, because of the mouthfuls of Colgate and > Listerine she receives in return). And whilst I looked around the park, low > and behold, there were about 10 bodies strewn comatosed along the back of > the memorial wall, wine cartons littered not far away. And further down, a > gang of young shaky tik addicts with hoodies shadowing their faces, > obviously plotting their next move... > > It's no wonder many outsiders think Obz is a filthy scum attracting sewer, > because it's hard to argue that it isn't! > > Granted, it's a multifaceted issue and all people in need genuinely > deserve compassion and assistance, but how does it help if we tolerate the > very lifestyle that's a detriment to them in the first place? > > As for what more can actually be done, I dont know. Is it possible for > the Police, OBSID and our security companies to take a stricter approach, > according to our by-laws? Shouldn't we start by posting 'no-loitering' > signs everywhere so that our dearly intrenched bergies can gracefully start > searching for greener pastures, or heaven forbid, sober up. > > I guess answers to this would be in the City of Cape Town's by-laws > document - STREETS, PUBLIC PLACES AND THE PREVENTION OF > NOISE<http://web1.capetown.gov.za/websearch/search/search.aspx?lib=acm/comsup/Weblib&docName=Bylaw> > - but > it's currently a broken link and not downloadable. > > From what I understand so far though, is that there is a distinction > between someone who is loitering and someone who is vagrant. The latter > being care of the Displaced People's unit > (DPU)<http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/Lawenforcement/Pages/DisplacedPersonsunitDPU.aspx>. > It > would be interesting to know what the DPU has actually done for vagrants > around here? I'm guessing very little. > > Anyone else think it's time for some tougher love? > > I'd like to think one day Obz could be a *truly* attractive place to be. > Except if your laying down for an extended period on the pavement. > > > [image: Inline image 1] > > -- > OPS [Obsid Public Safety] - 24/7 control room > ---------------------------------------------- > 021-447-1066 072-063-1653 > > For all emergencies please dial 10111 > > ---------------------------------------------- > ONW: 082 081 0142, ONW email: [email protected] > WEB: www.obswatch.org.za > ---------------------------------------------- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > The Observatory Neighbourhood watch group. To post to this group, send > email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send > email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this > group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/obsnw?hl=en > > > -- OPS [Obsid Public Safety] - 24/7 control room ---------------------------------------------- 021-447-1066 072-063-1653 For all emergencies please dial 10111 ---------------------------------------------- ONW: 082 081 0142, ONW email: [email protected] WEB: www.obswatch.org.za ---------------------------------------------- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Observatory Neighbourhood watch group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/obsnw?hl=en
