Frank you're a gem!:-)

On 2015/05/18 18:30, Frank Schuitemaker wrote:
Thanks for your observations Marc, the statistics even drilled down to days, hours and streets where batteries were likely to be stolen next, ONW used this to do their patrols this broke maybe the cycle when the police where not even aware of the full extend. Majority of the thefts were not reported and/or stats didn't mention battery but merely theft out or from vehicle. ONW involvement with chatting, this group etc revealed much of the real story but was likely still much less than the reality.

Was introduced though my insurance survey work to microdots some 20 years ago by Elvey Security who are still in Observatory, it's not only for cars but for any item, each of the billions of droplets from a small bottle carries the finger print unique to the owner. The technology is simple but the challenge is that the various law enforcements are not always equipped to test (the few) stolen item and that's due to a mass of competing products.

Don't see Human Rights as purely negative but it can take cops and ops of the beat for hours even days if the layers decide so thus yes we need more proof. The way forward is more willing eyes and ears as well as a determination to report and see matters through with laying charges and be prepared to go to court. BTW the Cops and Ops are normally right on it and it's only has to do a couple of patrols and/or be observant to know what's happening but yes it's the proof we need.

Observatory has 35 kilometres of streets and one can imagine it takes at least three cops of ops personal to monitor each km permanently, this is where residents can play their role under the umbrella of the ONW if we have 3 or 4 residents p/km reporting matters they observe we will win this battle. Together we can.





On 18 May 2015 at 17:27, Marc Turok <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Frank’s statistics are very interesting!
    57 reported batteries stolen in 2011
    84 in two years 2012 & 2013.
    There is a new method of microdot tracing of car parts that has
    improved tracking stolen goods but most of us do not know anything
    about it and where one can get it done!
    Anyone know?
    I personally do not think we should see protection of “Human
    Rights” as a negative thing that prevents acting on crime!
    Protection against false accusation is a good thing.
    We should not be acting without evidence to accuse people who may
    not be guilty but it is time we first get the evidence and then
    act! (Easier said than done!)
    Regards,
    Marc
    *From:* Frank Schuitemaker <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2015 12:25 PM
    *To:* The Observatory Neighbourhood watch
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower
    Collingwood Road.
    @ Barbara we looked last year at the increase of car breakages and
    it was apparent that since the lodge picked up clients the thefts
    increased. Yes the hire cars stand also out with advertisings as
    well as registration number from elsewhere. Also the overseas
    tenants are often way to careless by leaving items in the cars.
    Suggested long ago to the previous owners to speak to Howard of
    Green Elephant in regards to CCTV camera's and other precautions.

    On the battery thefts this certainly picked up again and heard
    various residents having lost batteries. The last spurge in
    battery thefts were 57 during 2011 when Saps only knew about a
    few. Once this was apparent and a few got caught  the number
    dropped e.g. during Oct 2011 and Dec 2013 84 batteries were
    reported stolen to Obsid, ONW. Unless reported the trend may not
    be obvious. Thus report, report, report even report if it was
    weeks ago.

    The car guards were traditionally involved in all types of crime
    and don't see why it should be otherwise today, once years ago
    they were removed out from Obs and crime dropped drastically but
    we live in different times Human Right layers and all that.


    On 18 May 2015 at 11:44, Barbara Anne Langridge
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        What can be a solution.  Because these students bring income
        to the area and current security issues wrr a concern.

        On 18 May 2015 10:58 AM, "[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student
            accomodation in
            several houses, backpackers around the corner, several
            rental cars always
            parked in our road. These are often the cars which are
            being stolen,
            un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional
            problem with car
            guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from
            these travellers,
            with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

            Original email:
            -----------------
            From: Barbara Langridge [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
            To: [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>, [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>, [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in
            Lower Collingwood
            Road.


            Hallo,



            Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,



            Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged,
            broken into, and
            now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students
            staying at Makulu
            Lodge.



            Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is
            responsible.



            I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.



            Thanks.



            Barbara Langridge





            From: [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of
            Johan Beaurain
            Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
            To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
            Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower
            Collingwood Road.



            My neighbours informed me this morning that they
            discovered that the
            battery was removed from the car.



            Thanks



            Johan Beaurain



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