Hi Barbara, comments below.. PS: Please give me a call, I would like to get you into the next OBSID PS meeting, we would really like you to get exposed to the work we are doing!
On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 at 21:31 Barbara Anne Langridge <[email protected]> wrote: > Hallo, > > I don't know how a claim can be made that crime has deceased. > Our monthly crime stats bear this out.. Month by month, for the year.. Do you get the report Barbara? Summaries are available updated weekly on the google crime map, for all to see. > In the last few months Obs has had no less than 5 armed robberies. > Obviously we are focusing on ALL crime, not just business crime.. two of the businesses below suffered from snatch and grab theft, this has reduced dramatically too. All our residential crime categories show reduced stats. > Drawing room > Coco Chachi > Ganesh > Ferdinandos > Ganesh > Ponchos > > The CPF was disbanded and this was done without public participation or > consensus. > This is also incorrect Barbara, the disbandment of the CPF was done very publically, in all of Obs civic organizations. We had five meetings to canvas the community alone before the decision was taken. Not to mention the abortive attempts with SAPS, DoCS WC and WC Govt. > No matter the failure of police, it remains crucial to continue open > channels. > Our communications with SAPS are as good as they will get at present.. OBSID safety managers and security members attend every fortnightly joint meeting at the station, and sector manager team members attend most of our Public Safety committee meetings. There is good cooperation on joint operations in our area, and members support our plans and priorities whenever they can. > There is no community police plan,and in a strange twist the recent spike > of serious crime may just be the spurs that stimulate proactive response to > actually take action instead of all waiting foe someone else to do it. > We no longer rely on SAPS Woodstock ONLY, to do it for us, this is true.. We no longer wait for them to solve our problems, we proactively attempt to solve them for ourselves, we are certainly not waiting for anyone to solve our problems for us.. We have a safety plan for our suburb, it was presented in September last year, and we continue to follow it's strategy till today. Please Barbara, I invite you to come and attend some of our meetings, and get the correct first hand information; some of the comments you have made here in public show that you are not well informed at all on what public safety actions are being carried out in our suburb. We value your role in building and supporting local businesses, art and culture, and support you in every way we can, please don't undermine our public safety efforts because you are uninformed of their extent. > Regards > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 03 Jul 2017, at 11:00 AM, Graham Porter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi All, > > I somehow missed this when Barbara posted it, but Mark asked me for a > comment this morning, so here's my response to comment 3. (which I think > should be point 5.) > > Barbara, I know you were part of a number of these meetings, so some of > this will be old hat to you.. > > My response: > > The Observatory Sector 1 CPF was disbanded after a period of years of > little to zero co-operation from the management at Woodstock SAPS. > > In that period, serious issues around service delivery, residents > complaints, allegations of corruption, refusal to submit to civilian > oversight, and a complete lack of accountability led us to a situation > where it was obvious that there was no point in continuing to hold up this > relationship from our side alone, and that the volunteers time could be > better spent in other community organisations. Note also, that to our > knowledge, no attempt has been made to reconstitute the CPF body with > residents who perhaps hold a different view to ours. This situation is a > SAPS responsibility, and is currently unconstitutional. > > The statement that the disbandment of the CPF Sector 1 has led to an > increase in crime is also false, and can be supported by a continued > decline in overall crime, according to the statistics we compile on a daily > basis, shared with the ONW membership, and the community, every month. > > It could be argued that the SAPS team in Woodstock is withholding services > from Obs residents; this too is false, our sector management team has been > very active, and collaborative with the public safety team, as always. > There have been service delivery issues from individual members, and they > are human so there will always be, but all the channels exist to address > this with SAPS. > > I would welcome any additional comments from Steve. > > Best Regards, > GP > > On 2 July 2017 at 17:41, Barbara Langridge <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hallo All, >> >> There is a total disconnect between business/residents/landlords/shop >> managers and patrons. This is a consequence of each category having >> disparate agenda's. I fit into all categories and the areas I have >> struggled with are: >> >> 1. Getting residents interest in the problems we face on Lower Main. >> 2. Join the fight against drugs. >> 3. Open communication with landlords so they understand the impact of >> tenants who front for drug trade. >> 2 Businesses cry foul very quickly when security issues arise, but >> few >> are actually part of the structures in OBS and they do nothing to support >> the structures in a proactive way. >> 3. The CPF Woodstock Sector 1 was disbanded exacerbating the crime >> situation along lower main. >> >> I would definitely be interested to sign up to collaborating with a good >> security response company for dedicated patrols in Observatory North - >> that >> is between Milton to Main Road. This would cost about R21.000 per month >> so >> we need to have the numbers on board to service this area. >> >> Apart from that solution, business owners need to be encouraged to: >> >> 1. Keep interior lighting on at night. >> 3. Install panic buttons. >> 3. Install pavement lighting - City of Cape Town have failed to >> deliver >> improved lighting, this issue has gone on for years, I saw old minutes >> from >> 2011 OCA meetings when the issue was raised, that’s 6 years ago. >> 4. Live the "broken windows theory". This means taking personal >> responsibility and committing to constant pavement clean up, improving >> aesthetics - this will change the perceptions. >> 5. How to stay safe and secure campaign - I distributed this >> document a >> while ago. Business needs to take ownership of this type of initiatives >> and >> go forward to continue in their own capacity to try and promote >> these ideas, if that is, they agree with them. >> 6. Clean the street and treat for bad odours (garbage bins washed in >> the alley do make the street smell). >> >> We all need to be the change we want to see in the world, and make it >> happen. >> >> Barbara Langridge >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Anique van der Vlugt >> Sent: 30 June 2017 11:29 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [obsnw] Café Ganesh: Armed Robbery >> >> I agree with Trev! And residential owner's also want to know what is >> going >> on. >> >> Shocking re. Panchos! >> >> Just a note; the last two times I walked past the OBSCID trailer on Trill >> Road just on the corner near Café Ganesh there was no one inside and no >> OBSCID security guy nearby. Is this normal and/or related? >> >> On 30/06/2017 08:02, Steve Killick wrote: >> > There was another armed robbery at Panchos around 11h30 last night by >> five armed black men. No injuries reported. No further info at this stage. >> SAPS are investigating. >> > >> > On 29 Jun 2017 16:35, "Trevor Hughes" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Thanks Steve >> > >> > I think the public are better off knowing about these incidents and >> > that if you have the information it should be disseminated as widely >> > as possible. 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