Dear mr Petersen What exactly do you mean by '" It would be unwise to make more than 300 bundles (2 bundles) for each IA&P"? I am surprised by the loose language that you as an advocate use and doubt that any judge would accept such contradictory and incoherent arguments in court.
I see that there have been a number of comments regarding your email etiquette and other matters. Maybe you could consider consolidating your responses into a single email at the end of the day, rather than bombarding us with 14 emails during the course of one day? 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[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 21 August, 2018 15:23:23 Subject: Re: {Spam?} TRUP APPEAL TO MINISTER MARAIS Dear Sir The due date to file comments is 10 September 2018. It would be unwise to make more than 300 bundles (2 bundles) for each IA&P. Regards Adv. Michael Petersen Legal Assistant: Ministerial Appeal Tribunals Ministry of Cultural Affairs & Sport Western Cape Government 8th Floor, Protea Assurance Building, Greenmarket Square, Cape Town, 8001 Tel: 021 483 9800/9522 Fax: 021 483 9801 Email: [email protected] Website: www.westerncape.gov.za -------- Original message -------- From: Jonny Gevisser <[email protected]> Date: 2018/08/21 14:58 (GMT+02:00) To: Michael Petersen <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email 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Is there not a more coherent, ‘participation-friendly’ way to do this? 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Adv. Michael Petersen Legal Assistant: Ministerial Appeal Tribunals Ministry of Cultural Affairs & Sport Western Cape Government 8th Floor, Protea Assurance House , Green m arket Square, Cape Town, 8001 . 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