Hey All Thanks for this. I get your sentiment John - I don't want to have that 'in-group relationships'. However I just want to uplift and showcase the great things people are doing. Does it happen anywhere else is FOSS4G?
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 10:12 AM Adam Steer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi John > > You've expressed my thoughts really well re. awards. > > Martin, I have many thoughts on volunteered/acquired/stolen geodata, for > another chat. (Maybe we should get a microgrant and run a forum on the > topic, if we run it in beechworth that'd be ace!) > > Alex, thanks for your action reaching out to Paul that's great!! Sooner > the better - a public draft is a strong statement in itself ;). > > Cheers, > > Adam > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 15:16 John Bryant <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Adam wrote: >>> >>> Awards - personally not my thing and (IMO) about the last thing a >>> community org should focus on. I've just returned from a couple of >>> years in Norway dealing with a community that is strongly cult of >>> personality (rockstar/award/??) based, and it sucks. Where was the >>> community discussion about awards in OSGeo Oceania? >>> >> >> I feel similarly. I think it's nice to recognise people's successes and >> wins, but industry body awards feel like an echo chamber to me, reinforcing >> in-group relationships. I've always admired OSGeo for its focus on reaching >> the broader community, creating an inviting and open space where anyone can >> participate regardless of affiliations. >> >> The APSEA awards seem like particularly odd bedfellows for OSGeo >> Oceania... despite the "Asia-Pacific" name, they're predominantly >> (entirely?) Australian. Not making a criticism but it doesn't seem in step >> with OSGeo Oceania's community. >> >> Ohyeah, an MoU *has to be* public and reviewable by the community. >>> OSGeo's MoU with OGC is a good example of this practice. >>> >> >> +1 >> >> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 08:14, Martin Tomko <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Oh, sorry – you mean VGI? That was me the academic speaking - >>> Volunteered Geographic Information, e.g., OSM, or any other geo content >>> (e.g., Mapillary Cam data, or OpenDrone Map, or other) that is volunteered >>> by people, as opposed to a “super” category - User Generated Content, which >>> is any stuff that may be gathered from people out there, even unknowingly >>> (some call this Coerced Geographic Content …) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Agreed with your other points – and this makes it quite tricky to write >>> a good MoU 😊, but there is hope, >>> >>> M. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Adam Steer <[email protected]> >>> *Date: *Thursday, 30 March 2023 at 10:05 am >>> *To: *Martin Tomko <[email protected]> >>> *Cc: *OSGeo Oceania Board <[email protected]>, OSgeo - >>> Oceania <[email protected]> >>> *Subject: *Re: [Oceania-Board] [OSGeo Oceania] Geospatial Council of >>> Australia - thoughts? >>> >>> Hi Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> Unfortunately unsurprising, I hope we can all work together to be better. >>> >>> >>> >>> Noncompetition for grants is a great addition to an MoU, alongside >>> preventing channeling of OSGeo, OSM, HOT etc (global) funds to non-open >>> activities. Leading naturally to the principle of open data from >>> open-branded activity; and hackathons resulting in PRs to existing projects >>> rather than fork -> rebrand -> claim. >>> >>> >>> >>> What does "VGC" expand to? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> >>> Adam >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Oceania-Board mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania-board >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Oceania mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania >> > _______________________________________________ > Oceania-Board mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania-board >
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