Joe Strout wrote: > Carlo de Falco wrote: > > >>>So, it appears as though a complete install of Octave (able to plot) >>>would include Octave.app, Gnuplot.app, and AquaTerm.app. >> >>Aquaterm is actually not necessary to plot, even when using the Gnuplot >>backend. >>If you have X11 installed on your mac you can do... > > > Ah, but I don't have (nor want) X11. That's good to know for people who > do though.
I haven't followed Apple since the PowerMac mess, but I thought that Steve Jobs brought a lot of the operating system concepts over from NeXT. I'd think that X11 is present somewhere on your system. Perhaps not. > I think I need a manual describing how to use the inline manual! > (Mostly kidding, I see that it has its own help, but it's still quite > scary for someone not used to command-line tools... and nothing I'd seen > so far even hinted that the "doc" command exists until you mentioned it.) The command-line can be very efficient, especially with tab completion. > Please understand that I'm not just complaining to complain; I've led > some open-source projects myself, and I've seen that the hardest thing > to get right is the new-user experience. All the experienced users (and > especially the developers) have long since installed all the extra > stuff, gotten used to all the obscure commands, and otherwise lost sight > of what hurdles a new (or prospective) user runs into. So, a new user > who takes the time to point out and explain where they've gotten lost, > misdirected, or confused is a helpful resource. That is part of the problem. I think it comes from the nature of Octave/Gnuplot, that the developers are also using the tool for other work. Documentation, unfortunately, gets lower priority I suppose. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Octave-dev mailing list Octave-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/octave-dev
