On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rob Myers <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 22/06/11 13:58, Mike Linksvayer wrote: > >> I'm not sure which distinction you're drawing between share alike and >> copyleft and would be curious to know why you think contract makes >> more sense for former. >> > > It enforces sharing at the cost of going further than just neutralizing > general restrictions on use. I think. I agree those are important classes, but don't think share alike and copyleft are useful names for them, not least because the license most associated with share alike (CC BY-SA) is roughly neutralizing only and license most associated with copyleft enforces sharing (of source). I can see contract perhaps being possibly more aligned in spirit with enforcing, but mostly as orthogonal. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Mike Dupont < [email protected]> wrote: > To be honest I am very skeptical about this contract issue in total. I wish > that it would be tested on some smaller case than forced upon me, hence my > allergic reaction. > Lots of people are skeptical, including me -- both whether it is good policy* and whether it effectively adds anything on top of licensing. I think both have been debated plenty as general concepts, we'll see how it works out. I do have one ODbL specific thing about contract that I haven't seen discussed -- it isn't clear to me how 2.2(c) interacts with with 6.1 when the licrensor/offerer has no copy- or database rights (ie when contract would be final defense). Mike * which means various things; I have a theory that at least a little bit of the conflict in discussion of public licenses -- not this discussion in particular, but all of the usual free/open/permissive/copyleft/NC/access-only [which I just now realized is OA reversed!] etc permathreads comes from people talking past each other about/from perspective of ideal policy for individuals/projects/stewards/lawmakers/other and started putting hints of this in some of my talks starting in http://www.slideshare.net/mlinksva/evalfreedomstackpushculture-the-creative-commons-solution(slide 16) -- https://creativecommons.net/ml
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