On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Ian C <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Rob, sorted and the report is available via
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
>

Thanks, Ian.  That is a good summary of where things stand for the
podling.   I've signed off on the report.

Btw, you mentioned the ODF Plugfest.   There is also the ApacheCon
coming up in Budapest.   I'm not able to make it.  (I went to the
Denver one).   But is anyone else able to attend?

-Rob

> Anyone, have any edits please feel free to apply them, or email me and I
> will make the necessary changes.
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If you send a note to [email protected] asking for
>> permissions to their wiki so you can enter a report, they will give
>> you permissions.
>>
>> And a reminder, it is a good idea for all PPMC members to follow the
>> incubator mailing list.  There is a lot of good information relevant
>> to podlings there.  You subscribe by sending a note to
>> [email protected].
>>
>> I see that you've mentioned that we've discussed the Apache Attic
>> option.  This is good.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Ian C <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I took the last report I could find and added some comments, see below.
>> >
>> > Feel free to edit it, and can someone submit the final version?
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ODF ToolkitJava modules that allow programmatic creation, scanning and
>> > manipulation ofOpenDocument Format (ISO/IEC 26300 == ODF) documentsODF
>> > Toolkit has been incubating since 2011-08-01.Three most important
>> > issues to address in the move towards graduation:1. Grow the community
>> > in terms of committers2. Have regular releases3. Decide if we would
>> > like to be a top level project or join an existing   projectAny issues
>> > that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to beaware of?
>> > We've been discussing moving the project to the attic. What little
>> > discussion
>> >   there has been on this was generally against the idea. Disussions are
>> ongoing.
>> >
>> >  How has the community developed since the last report?
>> >
>> >   We have made a release but there has been little activity since then.
>> >   We need to attract more members and publising the project in the ODF
>> Plugfest
>> >   was suggested as a means of doing so.
>> >
>> >
>> > How has the project developed since the last report?
>> >   We released version 0.6.1 via the alternate release process in
>> > June.Date of last release:    2014-06-02When were the last committers
>> > or PMC members elected?   2012-10-29
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:52 AM, John D. Ament <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Great!  Now about that board report...
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:47 PM, John D. Ament <[email protected]
>> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > Rob,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Just curious, you have three mentors listed:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Sam Ruby
>> >> > > Nick Burch
>> >> > > Yegor Kozlov
>> >> > >
>> >> > > However, it looks like you were the one who signed off on the last
>> >> board
>> >> > > report.  Do we perhaps need to shuffle around mentors a bit?
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > I certainly needed to add myself, which I did here:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > -Rob
>> >> >
>> >> > > John
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tue Oct 28 2014 at 9:03:25 PM Ian C <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Hi Rob,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> you have a volunteer. Don't know what to do, don't have check
>> access,
>> >> > but
>> >> > >> I'm will to learn and help.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Cheers,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Ian
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >> > > I think it is time to have a candid discussion about this
>> project
>> >> > and
>> >> > >> > > what we want to do with it.
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > On the positive side, we did have a release back in July.
>> Also,
>> >> we
>> >> > do
>> >> > >> > > seem to have users, as evident from the questions on the users
>> >> list.
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > But as a Mentor, I'm noting that we're in the habit of being
>> late
>> >> > for
>> >> > >> > > IPMC reports, and appear to have not had any list discussions
>> or
>> >> > code
>> >> > >> > > commits in a few months.   We don't seem to be making progress
>> >> > towards
>> >> > >> > > graduation or growing the community.
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > You can read more about the Attic here:
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > http://attic.apache.org/
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Anyone have thoughts on this?
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Note:  moving to the Attic does not prevent us from then
>> putting
>> >> the
>> >> > >> > > codebase onto Github and maintaining it that way.   This might
>> >> make
>> >> > >> > > more sense for a project that has only 2 or 3 developers
>> >> > sporadically
>> >> > >> > > working on it.
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Hello All !
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > A quick follow up.    Responses to this idea show that there was
>> no
>> >> > >> > support for moving to the Attic.  That's fine.   I'd like this to
>> >> be a
>> >> > >> > community decision.   However, if we don't start showing a real
>> >> > >> > heartbeat in this project, including timely submission of our
>> >> podling
>> >> > >> > reports to the IPMC, and progress towards graduating from the
>> >> > >> > Incubator, we may be forced into that position.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Maybe it would help if someone volunteers to be Release Manager
>> for
>> >> > >> > the next release and suggest a date for that release?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Also, since we missed the podling report for October we need to
>> get
>> >> > >> > one in for November,  We need a volunteer to draft that.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > -Rob
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > Regards,
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > -Rob
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Cheers,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Ian C
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Ian C
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Ian C

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